Originally posted by Robtard
Then the debate shouldn't be whether Hitler or any other person is evil, but does 'Evil' exist at all.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
True...but then he's good either is he ? What is he then ?
Neutral, like everyone else, like everything else.
Originally posted by who?-kid
That's a nihilistic point of view. You know the Greek thinker Protagoras ? He said "[b]Man is the measure of all things".He's right.[/B]
No is not, why should "man" be the measure of all things. Very subjective view. Any reason.
Originally posted by who?-kid
When you say : Damn, that elephant is big ! You actually say Damn, that elephant is big, compared to me, because compared to the Mount Everest, the elephant is an ant. But you don't do that, you compare it to yourself..
I sometimes say an elephant is big compared to a mouse....any explanation for that? Also "big" is a term closely defined and provable in a scientific way. Evil...very much lacks such a definition. You can say chocolate is evil compared to me. But, really, what would you say? Nothing.
Originally posted by who?-kid
When you look at an ant and think such a small animal, you actually think such a small animal compared to me.
The sun is really bright. This piano is really loud. This flower is really blue.
Compared to me? ..nah.
Originally posted by who?-kid
And so on. The sun is not hot, the sun is hot compared to a human being. The moon is not far, the moon is too far for a human to walk to it. A car is not too heavy, a car is too heavy for a human to lift it.Far, small, little, huge, cold, warm, evil and good : that all means nothing, until it's compared to a human being !
After all, man is the measure of all things. And since man is measure of all things, and since man acknowledges the existence of being evil, we can say evil exists.
Well, bottom line is this....BULLSHIT. "Man" acknowledged the existence of fairies, God and Dragons at one point (and partly still do) ... your argument holds no water it is just idiotic....this theory is supported by Urizen thinking it is the most intelligent thing he has read on KMC.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But do you know that it is not a valid point since there is no reason why "sending people to concentration camps" should be considered evil?
Actually, there's infinite reasons why "sending people to concentration camps" should be considered evil.
It's like saying someone is ugly....you could tell me all you want "no one is really ugly, it's all a matter of perception"
Or you can tell me all you want that no one is sexy, it's all in my head...
Well whether or not it's just all in our heads, or if evil is truly a material substance is irrelevant....I think it's evil. So do many many many many many people. Even some people who like Hitler think what they did was evil, and love it.
Good and Evil are as real as we percieve them to be.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i se now that there is no place for humor here. only room for overly serious conversations.question: what does the "concentration" in concentration camps mean?
It means to gather in a particular spot.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Actually, there's infinite reasons why "sending people to concentration camps" should be considered evil.It's like saying someone is ugly....you could tell me all you want "no one is really ugly, it's all a matter of perception"
Or you can tell me all you want that no one is sexy, it's all in my head...
Well whether or not it's just all in our heads, or if evil is truly a material substance is irrelevant....I think it's evil. So do many many many many many people. Even some people who like Hitler think what they did was evil, and love it.
Good and Evil are as real as we percieve them to be.
Well, "ugly" and "pretty" is to a great part in your head, your point?
And I totally agree, if you want to say Hitler was evil to me. Good. But to say Hitler is Evil..is just ridiculous.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i se now that there is no place for humor here. only room for overly serious conversations.question: what does the "concentration" in concentration camps mean?
This is the GDF, if you want off topic humour, you realise where you can go. Don't come in here and start moaning simply because we don't want the thread filled with silly comments and smileys.
The answer to your question: They would select people according to criteria and put them in groups. Either they could be used for work, experiments or...well...execution. This was called "concentrating.".
-AC