Creation vs Evolution

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ok this my be off topic but how how do you belive everything came from

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
ok this my be off topic but how how do you belive everything came from

I don't know where everything came from. How do you know that things came from somewhere? What if the universe has always been?

so you thing you just hopped on the spot.so if evolution is true you all mean nothing and your worth nothing infact your an problem becuase your just killing the earth and we need to get rid of something that is worthless.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
so you thing you just hopped on the spot.so if evolution is true you all mean nothing and your worth nothing infact your an problem becuase your just killing the earth and we need to get rid of something that is worthless.

Your posts are difficult to read, but I will try to answer what I thing you are saying.

Because humans have changed over time does not mean that humans have no value. The value of life is independent of change.

Why do you want to get rid of something that has no value? The assignment of value is a human activity and is connected to culture. Therefore the assignment of value can be flawed.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
so you thing you just hopped on the spot.so if evolution is true you all mean nothing and your worth nothing infact your an problem becuase your just killing the earth and we need to get rid of something that is worthless.

Why is it that religious people in general think that if God didn't create humans as we are or by biblical account than somehow life has no meaning? That logic completely confuses me; why can't you just live your life for the experience? Live for joy, love, happiness, to procreate etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why is it that religious people in general think that if God didn't create humans as we are or by biblical account than somehow life has no meaning? That logic completely confuses me; why can't you just live your life for the experience? Live for joy, love, happiness, to procreate etc.
Like Bob Ross 😛

Originally posted by ThePittman
Like Bob Ross 😛

LOL...

Exactly, why can't one just live to "paint a happy little mountain".

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why is it that people belive in evolution try to claim we(religous)have no facts when evolution has none ans is the most flat out stupidest thing(I came from an fish,or gem of some type,hey look birds came from an Dino,how stupid is that,i done with y'all for now.

Originally posted by Robtard
LOL...

Exactly, why can't one just live to "paint a happy little mountain".

BTW.. I checked out your site, you do quality work.

Thank you very much, I always loved watching his show. 😉

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
why is it that people belive in evolution try to claim we(religous)have no facts when evolution has none ans is the most flat out stupidest thing(I came from an fish,or gem of some type,hey look birds came from an Dino,how stupid is that,i done with y'all for now.
So “poof” you are there is any less crazy?

i'd rather belive i came from an man and woman that was made from an god then a rock or what ever you people belive

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
i'd rather belive i came from an man and woman that was made from an god then a rock or what ever you people belive
That is the thing though, you would rather believe in something that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy then what really is. You would rather believe that people don’t rape and murder other people and go on with you marry life but it happens. Why believe in something that is not real because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy and ignore reality and the real problems instead of sweeping them under the rug?

OH really.don't even try to use that card with me.i have seen my class mate murdered,rape,it apart of life so get off you high-patelstool.My God did not come down & save his son so he anit comeing down for you ,me or any one else on this earth

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
OH really.don't even try to use that card with me.i have seen my class mate murdered,rape,it apart of life so get off you high-patelstool.My God did not come down & save his son so he anit comeing down for you ,me or any one else on this earth
What is that supposed to mean, you said that you don’t want to think that you came from a monkey or a rock (which shows your lack of knowledge on the subject) so that means you will not accept evolution because it doesn’t make you feel good and rather believe in a fairy tale.

Also if he is not going to save you, then why believe in him anyway?

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
why is it that people belive in evolution try to claim we(religous)have no facts when evolution has none ans is the most flat out stupidest thing(I came from an fish,or gem of some type,hey look birds came from an Dino,how stupid is that,i done with y'all for now.
Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
i'd rather belive i came from an man and woman that was made from an god then a rock or what ever you people belive
You've obviously never learned the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. I suggest you do before you say things like that.

How did Noah fit all those animals in the boat? and how did he feed all the animals for 1 week. and how did clean all the animal poopoo. How did Noah live to be 600. How did he get all the plants on the boat? How did koalas and Kangaroos get back to Australia.

When I was a little boy I asked these questions and my ignorant mother who answered with......don't ask questions. Religious people piss me off because they have no proof of any of the crap they clam as truth. Even something an IMPOSSIBLE as Noah’s ark they still believe to be true.

And the worst part about it all is you can’t debate with them because you can’t disprove someone’s faith, no matter what. Ignorance is bliss and I wish I was born without the ability to question so I could be blissful.

i go with the evolution cause retarded fish monkies kick ass

retarted people suck

wow,ok how did noah fit the animals on the ark.sweety they were baby animals.to anwser your question about noah go a page back and click the link and it show ask dinos in the bible.

~Flamboyant~ you have it backwards.it really by Natural Selection that cuases Theory of Evolution.you click the link and go under danger in evolution

I never knew i would come up apond so many non belives with out an friend to help.but my goal is if i can help one of you then my job is done and if i don't Father knows i tried.

what i was saying is he is not about to let you sit back an nothing happen,if he did he would not love,but he is always there,even with you all.the amazing thing is you all don't belive in him but he loves you,your his child,he's right there just waiting,saying"My Child I want you to meet me,I want to help you."

just by the way lay all thing aside.did any of you ever belive in him and if so what happen