A quick tussle between the 2 when FF pay x-men a visit
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Originally posted by darthgooberToo bad that instance is out of continuity and is in the extreme majority among 616 occurances. According to MARVEL that above example is BS. As is driven home by the fact that Thing wore a helmet for how long to hide a Wolverine caused disfigurement.
I think Marvel had it right with this instance....(credit to badabing for the scan)
I think this is an even split.
Wolverine probably shouldn't be able to cut the Thing (or Hulk, Namor etc), but he's done it so often that it has to be accepted.
However, the Thing knows that Logan could potentially kill him, so for once he won't hold back. Thing's hands are as lethal as Logan's claws; he can crush Logan's muscles and tendons, disembowel him, pull his face off etc. Also he probably knows about the healing factor by now, so he can really let loose.
Wolverine is faster, but can he deliver enough stabs to kill or cripple the Thing before Thing grabs him?
Originally posted by the blank
I think this is an even split.
Wolverine probably shouldn't be able to cut the Thing (or Hulk, Namor etc), but he's done it so often that it has to be accepted.
However, the Thing knows that Logan could potentially kill him, so for once he won't hold back. Thing's hands are as lethal as Logan's claws; he can crush Logan's muscles and tendons, disembowel him, pull his face off etc. Also he probably knows about the healing factor by now, so he can really let loose.
Wolverine is faster, but can he deliver enough stabs to kill or cripple the Thing before Thing grabs him?
The Thing has a different physiology when compared to a human, but it seems that he is still as susceptible to stabs or slashes as anyone. And Wolverine is plenty capable of stabbing or slashing Ben.
A thunderclap doesn't really seem viable, as Wolverine's stood up to one from the Hulk with no real ill effect to speak of.
Last, but certainly not least, Ben is faster and more agile than a big rocky dude SHOULD be, but is by no means even NEARLY peak human in that aspect, while Wolverine is supposedly a step beyond peak.
However, I honestly believe that anyone with the class of strength of Ben or above should be able to net a few wins on Logan, provided they GET them. Ben's a pretty good boxer, even though I'd put him NO WHERE near the top of the pile as far as Marvel Earth goes, I'm pretty sure he could pull some wins.
Thusly, I'd say the majority would go to Wolverine. How much of a majority, I am entirely unsure, but a majority. It seems like most of the advantages are in his favor. The damage he deals to Ben in a single strike will be permanent and lasting, whereas the damage he is dealt in one blow will be next to irrelevant compared to some of the things he has survived in the past(non-PIS showings, even); he is also certainly Ben's superior in speed and skills.
I dunno, it seems like Wolverine was engineered to be human-level, but capable of taking down some of the top-tier. He is written as being able to survive their punches, but deal lasting damage to anyone without a healing factor, 😬. I mean, when two powerhouses beat on each other, they can do it all day long, but when bladed instruments are brought into the mix? A stab to the heart is a stab to the heart, no matter who you are.
😬.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I dunno. Wolverine himself describes the feeling as lethal. Multiple thunderclaps could, and most likely would, put him down.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems like a somewhat dated comic. More recently, he's taken the Hulk's thunderclaps and got right back in the Hulk's face.
I really think this is quite an obvious affair, Wolverine wins very easily. Even if the Thing Knocks him out (Which is plausible, considering Namor who is in a similar strength division did it recently), he will be unable to kill him. Its only a matter of time before Wolverine successfully decapitates the Thing.
You only really need a KO to win.
And I wouldn't really count out a thunderclap based on that Hulk/Wolverine encounter. Just recently, Hulk was shown doing a ground slam that threw off Hercules and the Champions, but he didn't damage a car that was sitting right next to him. Thunderclaps stun people with normal healing and Wolverine's sensitive ears would be hard pressed to take one.
IIRC, Thing's stunned Wolverine with one before. Even if he heals from it almost instantly, Thing could still keep on performing a barrage of thunderclaps to keep him stunned.
