wolverine vs Thing

Started by Metalmanx16 pages

Originally posted by capt it up
jinzin has answered your question for me, but I also like to add a few things

thing fighting gladiator is PIS. Gladiator could speed blizt him and thing would never beable to react.

savage hulk reflexes and agility are no were near wolverines

hercules reflexes and agility are not on wolverines level

who the hell is dragon man?

also wolevrine has beaten hercules.

wolverine has taken savage hulk on.

Do you think the idea of Gladiator and Wolverine fighting for six days straight is okay though?

On topic...

Thing wins 8/10.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Do you think the idea of Gladiator and Wolverine fighting for six days straight is okay though?

no I dont and I have enevr said it was

Originally posted by Metalmanx
On topic...

Thing wins 8/10.


why does thing win 8/10? can you even give a good reason for thing winning the majority?

There's not much Wolverine can do. He's faster, but that's it. Although if Wolvie really went for the kill I suppose he could slash his ballsack.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
There's not much Wolverine can do. He's faster, but that's it. Although if Wolvie really went for the kill I suppose he could slash his ballsack.

wolverine far faster
more agile
better reflex
a far better fighter.
wolverine has the means to take thing out in a single attack while thing on the other hand is not nearly that lucky.

wolverine has and can eailiy cut through thing so I don't get were your comming from that wolevrine could not do any thing.

You're underestimating Thing. He's a better fighter than Wolverine is a speedster. Wolvie can play it smart and go for Ben's weak spots(his eyes, for example), but if he gives him one chance it's lights out for Wolvie.

And no, Wolverine can't take punches from Thing.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
You're underestimating Thing.

Not at all. You are the one doing the underestimating as always.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He's a better fighter than Wolverine is a speedster.

What does that have to do with any thing? Logan far more skilled then Ben and far faster he will be scoring the majority of the hits. Every one of Logans hits will go right through things hide.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Wolvie can play it smart and go for Ben's weak spots(his eyes, for example),

He would not need to go for the weak points. Wolverine can and has easily stab thing and does not need to go for any week points since his claws will easily cut through thing as seen below.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...;postid=7211777

Originally posted by Dinalfos
but if he gives him one chance it's lights out for Wolvie.

And no, Wolverine can't take punches from Thing.

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Really now? That odd since wolverine has taken hits from thing and not been nocked out hell he taken hits from people stronger then thing as seen below when Sas attacked wolverine and as you can see wolverine is far from KOed
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cheapshotke4.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morecheapnessvy3.jpg

Also when hulk went rip on wolverine as you can, see Logan is again far from out of the fight.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smashfk5.jpg

Originally posted by capt it up
Not at all. You are the one doing the underestimating as always.

Right 🙄

[/b]What does that have to do with any thing? Logan far more skilled then Ben and far faster he will be scoring the majority of the hits. Every one of Logans hits will go right through things hide.

The difference is minimal. Thing has good combat speed and enough durability to withstand his assaults. Remember, this is a fight without PIS. Wolverine can't put enough force behind his claws.

[b]He would not need to go for the weak points. Wolverine can and has easily stab thing and does not need to go for any week points since his claws will easily cut through thing as seen below.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...;postid=7211777

Where?

Really now? That odd since wolverine has taken hits from thing and not been nocked out hell he taken hits from people stronger then thing as seen below when Sas attacked wolverine and as you can see wolverine is far from KOed
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cheapshotke4.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morecheapnessvy3.jpg

Also when hulk went rip on wolverine as you can, see Logan is again far from out of the fight.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smashfk5.jpg

Please, that was total PIS. Both cases. Wolverine can't take punches like that. Period. He's been knocked out by far less than that, including a casual backhanding from Juggernaut. Hell, it was more like a lovetap.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Right 🙄

I know I am right.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The difference is minimal.

How is it minimal? Wolverine far quicker and more skilled.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Thing has good combat speed

Thing may have good combat speed, but next to logan he moving close to slow motion. When ahs thing ever dodge a bullet or a laser? Thing combat speed is many times slower then Logan and thing will be getting stabbed repeatedly.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
and enough durability to withstand his assaults.

Again he does not. Wolverine claws can by pass his defenses as seen more then once.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Remember, this is a fight without PIS. Wolverine can't put enough force behind his claws.

Go ask digi if you like, but wolverine claws cutting thing is not PIS. Wolverine been doing it since he started so how can some thing wolverine been doing since he came out possably be PIS? That would mean 100s of comics are in fact PIS. The fact is it not PIS and you can ask the mods if you don’t believe me. I think you just have no evidence so you cry PIS.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Where?

Here
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wt3mx.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing224ib.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing4eb.jpg

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Please, that was total PIS. Both cases.

Wolverines been doing that for years. It not PIS at all. Wolverine can is has taken hits from high class guys. You have no evidence so prove any thing so you cry PIS, but it is clearly not PIS.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Wolverine can't take punches like that. Period.

Wolverine done it many many times so yes he can. Hell here a small list of guys he taken hits from.
These are not all of the battles wolverine has had with high strength level people but they are some of them. Also these are just pieces of the fights but as u can see wolverine takes on many high strength level characters.
Wolverine Vs Tiger Shark. He fought and took hits from tiger shark and kept coming. There first fight was in the water and the second which this pic is from is were wolverine beats tiger shark who is class 100.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinen20p132qn.jpg

Wolverine vs Grey hulk in hulk 340. wolverine takes quite a few this from hulk and keeps coming.
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit47fk.jpg

here another fight wolverine had with a class 100 and came out on top. Wolverine takes in this fight with ba’al quite a good amount of hits and keeps coming.
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t6xn.jpg

wolverine vs wendigo who is a class 100 and is taking hit quite fine.
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w27dd.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w36yd.jpg

death wolverine vs. hulk and as u can see hulk hitting him aint stopping him.
http://img427.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smash2vn.jpg

wolverine vs namor
http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvswolv40oq7fl.gif

wolverine has a fist fight with calabain.
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsh8qz.jpg

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He's been knocked out by far less than that,

Such as? Also wolverine healing factor ahs been up graded over the year so of course he can take hits better now then before.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
including a casual backhanding from Juggernaut. Hell, it was more like a lovetap.

See here why reading the actually issue would have been a good idea before speaking. Wolverine to two full on punches prior to the back hand. Also that was pre written healing factor and mutant wolverine.

Gotta hand it to Cap it up here, Wolverine is highly underrated here on these forums as well as highly disliked.

I say Wolves 7-8/10

Originally posted by Jesse7
Gotta hand it to Cap it up here, Wolverine is highly underrated here on these forums as well as highly disliked.

I say Wolves 7-8/10

I agree. Unless further evidence is provided on behalf of Ben, Wolverine's got this.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Gotta hand it to Cap it up here, Wolverine is highly underrated here on these forums
This statement is SO wrong, that I am putting it in my profile. Congrats.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Gotta hand it to Cap it up here, Wolverine is highly underrated here on these forums as well as highly disliked.

I say Wolves 7-8/10

Highly underated!!!! 😱

I about pissed myself!!! hysterical

The fact that Wolverine can cut Thing may not be PIS, BUT the fact that Thing didn't thunderclap his ass IS. And while a single thuderclap might not take Wolverine out, repeated thunderclaps in rapid succession woluld daze Wolverine enough that Thing could literally pound Wolverine into the ground.

Oh, I thought the great Wolverine was -never- dazed and that his healing factor would -always- compensate? If he was dazed from fighting before, he'll be dazed again from getting hit by an 85-tonner a couple times.

Hulk has reflexes no where near wolvierines? How about catching a tank shell? Or slaping Quicksilver out of the way? The average bullet leaving a handgun travels 1000 feet per second, and I'm pretty sure a shell leaving an 125mm tank cannon is going to be flying at considerably higher velocity.

Wolverine does NOT has superhuman speed.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/wolverine.htm

Healing factor, claws, enhanced scences...that's it.

Logan fighting GREY Hulk? Thing's knocked around Grey Hulk plenty of times..

Originally posted by capt it up
I know I am right.

How is it minimal? Wolverine far quicker and more skilled.

The difference isn't THAT big.


Thing may have good combat speed, but next to logan he moving close to slow motion. When ahs thing ever dodge a bullet or a laser? Thing combat speed is many times slower then Logan and thing will be getting stabbed repeatedly.

Again, the difference isn't that big. Btw, dodging a laser does not equate to combat speed, because otherwise he would not be taking full punches. By forum standards, Wolverine is just a slightly enhanced human with an adamantium skeleton. I really doubt that's enough to put someone with Ben's toughness down.

Go ask digi if you like, but wolverine claws cutting thing is not PIS. Wolverine been doing it since he started so how can some thing wolverine been doing since he came out possably be PIS? That would mean 100s of comics are in fact PIS. The fact is it not PIS and you can ask the mods if you don’t believe me. I think you just have no evidence so you cry PIS.

It's PIS because it conflicts his power set. It's basically the same story with Captain America. They scale up and down.

Here
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wt3mx.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing224ib.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing4eb.jpg

Wolverines been doing that for years. It not PIS at all. Wolverine can is has taken hits from high class guys. You have no evidence so prove any thing so you cry PIS, but it is clearly not PIS.

Wolverine done it many many times so yes he can. Hell here a small list of guys he taken hits from.
These are not all of the battles wolverine has had with high strength level people but they are some of them. Also these are just pieces of the fights but as u can see wolverine takes on many high strength level characters.
Wolverine Vs Tiger Shark. He fought and took hits from tiger shark and kept coming. There first fight was in the water and the second which this pic is from is were wolverine beats tiger shark who is class 100.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinen20p132qn.jpg

Wolverine vs Grey hulk in hulk 340. wolverine takes quite a few this from hulk and keeps coming.
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit47fk.jpg

here another fight wolverine had with a class 100 and came out on top. Wolverine takes in this fight with ba’al quite a good amount of hits and keeps coming.
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t6xn.jpg

wolverine vs wendigo who is a class 100 and is taking hit quite fine.
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w27dd.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w36yd.jpg

death wolverine vs. hulk and as u can see hulk hitting him aint stopping him.
http://img427.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smash2vn.jpg

wolverine vs namor
http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvswolv40oq7fl.gif

wolverine has a fist fight with calabain.
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsh8qz.jpg

Wolverine was enhanced by Apocalypse in that Hulk panel.

But why are you showing me that? Because those type of occurances are exactly what I'm talking about. Wolverine is made out to be a super god of durability, while he simply can't be. I would believe that he can heal from most attacks, but he really just can't survive such severe full on punishment from characters like Hulk, Sasquatch and Wendigo. Sure, Wolverine has been amped over the years, but the way they make him shrug off these attacks is just plain ridiculous. Even a calm, unsuspecting Hulk(still leaps and bounds ahead of Wolverine in durability and healing) has been knocked out by similar punishment from equally or more powerful guys.

I'm not saying he can't survive an encounter with these. Because he can. But when the punishment is direct and severe, he should at the very least be ko'd. This is based on the idea behind the Wolverine character.

Such as? Also wolverine healing factor ahs been up graded over the year so of course he can take hits better now then before.

Yes, it's upgraded. I keep thinking about the classic versions. My bad. But still, Hulk glanced him on their first meeting. Before you start moaning, staying conscious doesn't have a lot to do with healing. So it does count.

Also, what was the Daredevil incident about?

See here why reading the actually issue would have been a good idea before speaking. Wolverine to two full on punches prior to the back hand. Also that was pre written healing factor and mutant wolverine.

Healing factor or not, it has nothing to do with being kayoed. You can be kayoed without sustaining damage to your brain tissue. His natural durability was practically the same. And two full on punches proof that he can be easily knocked out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This statement is SO wrong, that I am putting it in my profile. Congrats.

I agree, that statemenet is in a leauge of its own. Very quoteable

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The difference isn't THAT big.

Again, the difference isn't that big. Btw, dodging a laser does not equate to combat speed, because otherwise he would not be taking full punches. By forum standards, Wolverine is just a slightly enhanced human with an adamantium skeleton. I really doubt that's enough to put someone with Ben's toughness down.

It's PIS because it conflicts his power set. It's basically the same story with Captain America. They scale up and down.

Wolverine was enhanced by Apocalypse in that Hulk panel.

But why are you showing me that? Because those type of occurances are exactly what I'm talking about. Wolverine is made out to be a super god of durability, while he simply can't be. I would believe that he can heal from most attacks, but he really just can't survive such severe full on punishment from characters like Hulk, Sasquatch and Wendigo. Sure, Wolverine has been amped over the years, but the way they make him shrug off these attacks is just plain ridiculous. Even a calm, unsuspecting Hulk(still leaps and bounds ahead of Wolverine in durability and healing) has been knocked out by similar punishment from equally or more powerful guys.

I'm not saying he can't survive an encounter with these. Because he can. But when the punishment is direct and severe, he should at the very least be ko'd. This is based on the idea behind the Wolverine character.

Yes, it's upgraded. I keep thinking about the classic versions. My bad. But still, Hulk glanced him on their first meeting. Before you start moaning, staying conscious doesn't have a lot to do with healing. So it does count.

Also, what was the Daredevil incident about?

Healing factor or not, it has nothing to do with being kayoed. You can be kayoed without sustaining damage to your brain tissue. His natural durability was practically the same. And two full on punches proof that he can be easily knocked out.

Good post, this is actually a good fight IMO

Originally posted by golem370
Try this senario Thing and Wolverine is walking towards one another and start talking Wolverine calling Thing a pile of **** and Thing calling him inch high private eye and runt and Wolverine gets angry and jumps at Thing and with Things huge hands grabs Wolverine and slams him into the payment and while Wolverine is dazed he grabs Wolverine and punches him into a concrete wall then while Wolverine is humbled up against the wall here comes a man hole cover at about 100 miles an hour and K.O's Wolverine then while Wolverine is down Thing grabs the Man hole cover and repeatedly slams into Wolverine head. Then take a Taxi cab and wraps Wolverine in it binding his arms and hands and then sets it a blaze tell wolverine thats what you get messing with a former member of the Yancy Street Gang.
so thing has to use plot devices like crazy then? and unheard of speed he's never had before? 😕