wolverine vs Thing

Started by Creshosk16 pages

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's why I said he was hated, and that fact is correct, only seeing what you want to see simply proves my point more. My point was that he was overrated, and yours is that he's hated. Two different points.

Your coorelation was, "if a character has people saying they hate him on a joke thread, then I can use it as evidence when people say he is overrated to prove to defend Wolverine when I feel he is threatened."

That would be a strawman. 😉 Not my words.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So my claim is invalid because I won't submit to your bitching about the character's integrity or value to the forum in the first place? Don't think so.
So do you want to be the pot this time? or the kettle? Cause it really doesn't matter to me.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because you don't want it to.
Because it doesn't.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This means Superman is underrated too, I see a positive coorelation with overrated characters and why people hate them.
Yeah too bad it's invalid.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The sad part is you are such a hypocrite, seeing how you moan about ad populem and all, discarding it for supported evidence. This argument will just get circular with you anyways seeing as you enjoy this deep down. I need to get work done though, so enjoy.
Again, you want to be the pot? Fine by me.

I like how he just called his own proof invalid. 🙂

Either ways, on topic, in this matchup I see Ben winning about 7/10 on an average day, more if he's all out trying to defeat Logan.

Thought you said you were leaving? Was that a lie?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I like how he just called his own proof invalid.
Ooh, another strawman. nice.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Thought you said you were leaving? Was that a lie?
No, I was on MSN with a friend, and I realized I had to post in my RP as I had promised to do so. Sure seemed rushed to get me out of here, it's ok I understand. My other post was in regards to the match.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Ooh, another strawman. nice.
Pay attention, the positive coorelation was in the thread I was talking about, and you called it invalid, covertly saying the thread was invalid without realizing it. You never answered my question about Superman nor do I think you intend to, you will just keep saying those odd words like "strawman" and "pot to the kettle" like you always do when you run out of points.

Maybe you should read what's there and not interpret what you want.

*waits for it*

Night.

One punch and Logan is down.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, I was on MSN with a friend, and I realized I had to post in my RP as I had promised to do so. Sure seemed rushed to get me out of here, it's ok I understand. My other post was in regards to the match.
I know, but these matches have been done so many times.. and I don't know who wins in this specific match.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Pay attention, the positive coorelation was in the thread I was talking about, and you called it invalid, covertly saying the thread was invalid without realizing it.
calling a coorelation invalid in a thread isn't the same as calling the thread invalid.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You never answered my question about Superman nor do I think you intend to, you will just keep saying those odd words like "strawman" and "pot to the kettle" like you always do when you run out of points.
If you understood what those "odd words" meant you'd understand exactly the point I was making. 🤣

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Maybe you should read what's there and not interpret what you want.
Don't dispense advice you don't follow.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
*waits for it*

Night.

Yeah see you when you return to post in this thread. . .again. . .

Originally posted by Omega-level
One punch and Logan is down.
And C-master wonders why I say that wolverine is not overrated.

He's underrated at times, and there is an animosity towards the character, so any attempt to fix the underrating is seen to be fanboyism...

So as such even if I attempt to point out how your conclusion is invalid you wouldn't accept such an action.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I know, but these matches have been done so many times.. and I don't know who wins in this specific match.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He's underrated at times, and there is an animosity towards the character, so any attempt to fix the underrating is seen to be fanboyism...

Creshosk, you are actually fair. Ugh, I feel nauseated now. 😘

😛

Originally posted by badabing
Creshosk, you are actually fair. Ugh, I feel nauseated now. 😘

😛

Your approval fills me with shame...

...is a funny line from order of the stick. I don't really have anything to say, but wanted to acknowledge that I saw what you said.

How thing going to win the majority?

thing can not KO Logan in a hit. Logan can KILL thing in a single hit if he hits a vital.

Wolverine has far superior reflexes

Wolverine has far superior agility.

Wolverine is far quicker.

Wolverines far more skilled.

wolverine can take thing htis better then thing can take logans hits.

People keep assumeing thing can one hit Logan when evdience after evidence says he can't. Also why do you all assume Thing the one who more likly to get the one hit when his opponet is the superior fighter and faster.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So do you want to be the pot this time? or the kettle?
"You can be the pot and kettle all by yourself from now on, biatch!"

Here's how I see this fight going down if there's no PIS involved.
The Two square off, Wolverine moves to close the gap between them- *Thunderclap*, Wolverine is staggered but in otherwise good condition, *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap*- now Wolverine is dazed and clutching his ears and starts to move again as soon as his eardrums start to heal, *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap*. Now Wolverine is on the ground clutching his head and struggling to regain his composure, before he can the Thing grabs him by the ankles and swings him in a sledgehammer motion towards the ground, slamming his head repeatedly into the pavement, after a half hour or so of this, the Thing releases Wolverines ankles and Wolverine slumps to the ground in a bloody heap, alive but KO'ed. This is of course assuming that he wouldn't be KO'ed by the rapid succession of thunderclaps(which I think would be the case, but I'm trying to give Wolverine as much credit as is reasonably possible).

Wolverine can't do anythinbg if Ben peels the muscle off of his arms, and yanks his guts out.
Then, sits around smoking a cigar, waiting for the healing thingy to start putting him back together, only to peal and yank again.
Just my take on things.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"You can be the pot and kettle all by yourself from now on, biatch!"
I'm glad that someone gets my vauge little references.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Here's how I see this fight going down if there's no PIS involved.

Will see.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The Two square off, Wolverine moves to close the gap between them- *Thunderclap*,

If the two of them are squaring off, then wolverine would clear the gap before the thunder clap was ever made and thing would get stabbed.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wolverine is staggered but in otherwise good condition, *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap*- now Wolverine is dazed and clutching his ears and starts to move again as soon as his eardrums start to heal, *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap* *Thunderclap*. Now Wolverine is on the ground clutching his head and struggling to regain his composure, before he can the Thing grabs him*,

See there quite a problem with this. First of all it not part of thing character to even think about thunder clapping repeatedly. Thing is honorable he would never think of repeatedly thunder clapping he would rather duke it out to see who the real victor is. When has thing ever thunder clap multiable times? Hell when ahs thing ever thunder clapped? Maybe once or twice in his 44 years. The odds of thing even thinking of doing a thunder clap is extremely low and quite frankly not a likely option. Even if thing did do this it would not matter what so ever. Wolverine would not be effected by this he heal instantly any damage done to him and mean while well thing clapping wolverine will be stabbing him to death. If you don’t believe me look at how much damage an enrage hulks thunder clap does to wolverine
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thunderclaptq3.jpg

Originally posted by Horrificus
Wolverine can't do anythinbg if Ben peels the muscle off of his arms, and yanks his guts out.
Then, sits around smoking a cigar, waiting for the healing thingy to start putting him back together, only to peal and yank again.
Just my take on things.

how is ben to do this to a more skilled and fast opponet?

Originally posted by jinzin
so thing has to use plot devices like crazy then? and unheard of speed he's never had before? 😕

What plot devices this is a fight. He is using his surroundings in the fight and Wolverine is not the most cerebral fighter he is a feral type where as Thing is a smart fighter.

I still like this story

Try this senario Thing and Wolverine is walking towards one another and start talking Wolverine calling Thing a pile of **** and Thing calling him inch high private eye and runt and Wolverine gets angry and jumps at Thing and with Things huge hands grabs Wolverine and slams him into the payment and while Wolverine is dazed he grabs Wolverine and punches him into a concrete wall then while Wolverine is humbled up against the wall here comes a man hole cover at about 100 miles an hour and K.O's Wolverine then while Wolverine is down Thing grabs the Man hole cover and repeatedly slams into Wolverine head. Then take a Taxi cab and wraps Wolverine in it binding his arms and hands and then sets it a blaze tell wolverine thats what you get messing with a former member of the Yancy Street Gang.

Originally posted by capt it up
Will see.

If the two of them are squaring off, then wolverine would clear the gap before the thunder clap was ever made and thing would get stabbed.

See there quite a problem with this. First of all it not part of thing character to even think about thunder clapping repeatedly. Thing is honorable he would never think of repeatedly thunder clapping he would rather duke it out to see who the real victor is. When has thing ever thunder clap multiable times? Hell when ahs thing ever thunder clapped? Maybe once or twice in his 44 years. The odds of thing even thinking of doing a thunder clap is extremely low and quite frankly not a likely option. Even if thing did do this it would not matter what so ever. Wolverine would not be effected by this he heal instantly any damage done to him and mean while well thing clapping wolverine will be stabbing him to death. If you don’t believe me look at how much damage an enrage hulks thunder clap does to wolverine
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thunderclaptq3.jpg


I know that Thing doesn't thunderclap multiple times, he doesn't for the same reason that Flash and Superman don't speed blitz EVERY opponent, PIS. If Wolverine outclasses Thing by as much as you say, and both of them are fighting to the best of their ability, then it would be STUPID for Thing to let Wolverine to get in close, especially if he is as vulnerable as you say to Wolverine's claws.
Also, in the scan of Thing's face after Wolverine slashed him, if you look at the panel where that happens, it says that Wolverine let loose with the full ferociousness of his claws(or something to that effect), now notice that Wolverine going all out did not cut the top of Things head off, it just cut (admittedly large) slashes across his face. That means that while WOLVERINE CAN cut into BEN, it's a lot more difficult than some people are making it out to be. Also, Wolverine isn't known for going all out on other heroes unless he's rally on a mad or has a really good reason, so for him to do so in this fight would just as much out of character as Bens multiple thuderclaps for this fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know that Thing doesn't thunderclap multiple times, he doesn't for the same reason that Flash and Superman don't speed blitz EVERY opponent, PIS. If Wolverine outclasses Thing by as much as you say, and both of them are fighting to the best of their ability, then it would be STUPID for Thing to let Wolverine to get in close, especially if he is as vulnerable as you say to Wolverine's claws.
Also, in the scan of Thing's face after Wolverine slashed him, if you look at the panel where that happens, it says that Wolverine let loose with the full ferociousness of his claws(or something to that effect), now notice that Wolverine going all out did not cut the top of Things head off, it just cut (admittedly large) slashes across his face. That means that while WOLVERINE CAN cut into BEN, it's a lot more difficult than some people are making it out to be. Also, Wolverine isn't known for going all out on other heroes unless he's rally on a mad or has a really good reason, so for him to do so in this fight would just as much out of character as Bens multiple thuderclaps for this fight.

not a t all since this fights to the death. thing would not think about multi claping becuase he never does it while wolverine on the other hand kills people all the time. thing is willing to kill in this fight as well, but again being willing to kill is a lot different then just randomly using an attack you never use. Also as I already proved the thunder clap would be useless any ways and it just get thing killed.

also wolverien cut through thing easiliy as seen below
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wt3mx.jpg

do you notice wolverine has no problem stabbing right through thing.