wolverine vs Thing

Started by jinzin16 pages
jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by bigbran
Again Thanos is more duribile, than any of them. King Thor hasn't proved his duribilty. Even beating Hulk and Thing with one arm, wasn't that good of a feat.
But if you want to say he could cut him, I'll throw some duribilty feats around.
This is what happens when Surfer attacks Thanos.(Keep in mind, this was early in Thanos's career.)

The same attack, that knocked Mangog back.( I didn't have imageshack, back then, so I had to make it smaller.)

Thanos gets trapped in a black hole.

Odin.

I'll skip the other scans, and go right to where Odin, was actually able to hurt him.


Yes! This is all that happened in that attack.

Now, I know what your thinking, nobody stabbed him in those scans, well if Odin, didn't put him down, then why should bone claws, and adamantium do it(he had the IG during that time. Although it was powered down, by Thanos, it still shouldn't have happened.)
I got tons more scans, to prove Wolverine shouldn't be able to stab him.

neither put thanos down.. 🤨

if no one stabbed him then you can't prove his durability vs. stabbings can you?

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course he does, I mean if Daredevil can, Thing should have no problem. There's no way someone who's only peak human, has enough speed or power to hang with Ben. 😄

except that daredevil CAN'T take wolverine...

unless you're using comics as a standard of evidence.. in which case.. well.. then thing gets downed by logan...
😬

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by jinzin
neither put thanos down.. 🤨

if no one stabbed him then you can't prove his durability vs. stabbings can you?

I know, they didn't put him down, but the stabbing is enough.

I think a dark hole can dish out more than a stabbing.

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!
Originally posted by Creshosk
I know, but these matches have been done so many times.. and I don't know who wins in this specific match.

Don't care.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I calling a coorelation invalid in a thread isn't the same as calling the thread invalid.
Not when both conclusions are drawn fom the same thread it is.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I If you understood what those "odd words" meant you'd understand exactly the point I was making. 🤣
Don't try your sophism on me, it just further proves the fact that you try to pick on something irrelevant when you are losing the factual debate. Funniest part is you don't like voting, but when it suits your favor it's fine. Sad part is the same people voted constantly in that thread, which makes it even less valid. It's just your last defense when you've run out of arguments, much like you're doing now. It get's all to easy to keep you wrapped around my finger, I figured your valid points would stop after the second post, and you would start messing around, which is why I usually don't argue with you for long. You can make great points, but it usually get's old pretty fast.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I Don't dispense advice you don't follow.
This coming from the person who admits to arguing for it's own sake, and has basically had the whole forum on him for filibustering. It seems a majority of people here feel you have a reading comprehension problem.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah see you when you return to post in this thread. . .again. . .
No different when you do the same, the difference is I have other things to do than to argue for it's own sake 18+ hours a day. You'll most likely be back within 4-5 hours. Pretty soon probably.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And C-master wonders why I say that wolverine is not overrated.
Anyone who has read the comments by Wolverine supporters (objectively) would say otherwise.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's underrated at times, and there is an animosity towards the character, so any attempt to fix the underrating is seen to be fanboyism...
I agree to an extent, but the "fixing" comes from angry fanboys who feel their character is being insulted. He's overrated far more than underrated, unless Wolverine vs. Iron man is underrating to you.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So as such even if I attempt to point out how your conclusion is invalid you wouldn't accept such an action.
I could post some "concrete evidence" (according to you guys) that has 100% consistency of Thing ko'ing wolverine, but it wouldn't be accepted and an excuse would be made.

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by jinzin
if no one stabbed him then you can't prove his durability vs. stabbings can you?
Other things that can now injure Thanos. Cyclops optic blasts, because none of those prove that ruby-colored force through dimensional apertures in mutant eyes can't hurt him? Storm's lightning, because none of those show that excitation of electrons to generate weather phenomena and target it at people? Jubilee's fireworks, because none of those prove that PAF energy can't hurt him? Snakes on a plane, because none of those show that snakes on a plane can't hurt him?

bigbran Dead

How does this compare to a stabbing?
Traversing through different Realities.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
Thing beats Wolverine handily.

Really and hows that?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course he does, I mean if Daredevil can,

when has Daredevil ever beaten wolverine in a valid comic?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Thing should have no problem.

Not at all. There completely different characters. Hell Daredevil would last longer in a fight vs. wolverine then thing likely would. The two are completely different, with different skills and such.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There's no way someone who's only peak human,

Ya To bad Logan superman

Originally posted by darthgoober
has enough speed or power to hang with Ben. 😄

Wolevrien listed with a higher power level then thing by nick fury him self. Power does not mean strength.
Thing strength level is a 6.
Thing agility 2
Reflex is 2
Fighting skill 5
Durability 6
He beats wolverine in two areas. One of the area does not even matter since wolverine has a healing factor which can survive things worse then his durability can. So the only real area thing has over wolverine is strength besides that he has nothing.
While wolverine has agility, reflex, fighting skill all over him by a good amount.
Not to mention wolverine has a happen that by passes things durability.
So ya wolverine can’t hang with thing? Yet wolverine ahs Hung with people tougher then thing, not to mention he has defeated thing.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
I have no love for Wolverine, but I'll give respect where respect is due: Wolverine is above peak human.

I'll leave it at that.

Still, Ben clobbers the hirsute mutant.


Marvel comics does not agree nor do I
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wt3mx.jpg

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Other things that can now injure Thanos. Cyclops optic blasts, because none of those prove that that kinetic energy through dimensional apertures in mutant eyes can't hurt him? Storm's lightning, because none of those show that excitation of electrons to generate weather phenomena and target it at people? Jubilee's fireworks, because none of those prove that PAF energy can't hurt him? Snakes on a plane, because none of those show that snakes on a plane can't hurt him?

difference being that wolverine's already stabbed thanos...
if you're going to try and invalidate the feat than have something that it compares to.. thus far none of those do.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
How does this compare to a stabbing?
Traversing through different Realities.
I'm not sure how much of a feat that is considering that an evil tony starks done it.. 😬

how about thanos vs. stabbings?

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by jinzin
difference being that wolverine's already stabbed thanos...
if you're going to try and invalidate the feat than have something that it compares to.. thus far none of those do.
Originally posted by jinzin
except that daredevil CAN'T take wolverine...

unless you're using comics as a standard of evidence.. in which case.. well.. then thing gets downed by logan...
😬


And, people do have pis feats. Spiderman vs Firelord.
Wolverine getting taken out by a hit to the nuts. Him getting taken out by Daredevil.
You call those pis, but then you go around and say, it's happened in a comic.

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by jinzin
difference bieng that wolverine's already stabbed thanos...
Ah so if Storm's lightning was shown to hurt Thanos in a comic, disregarding his other feats of durability, then Storm's lightning can therefore now hurt him. If Cyclops blows a hole in Thanos in a comic then optic blasts can hurt him? PAF energy? Snakes on a plane?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not when both conclusions are drawn fom the same thread it is.
lol .. no. Doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Don't try your sophism on me, it just further proves the fact that you try to pick on something irrelevant when you are losing the factual debate.
That's rich. Seeing as how you try to dismiss what I say as "odd words".

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funniest part is you don't like voting, but when it suits your favor it's fine.
Uhh.. . I never vote.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sad part is the same people voted constantly in that thread, which makes it even less valid.
less valid than 0 validity?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's just your last defense when you've run out of arguments, much like you're doing now.
And the fact that this is what you're talking about?

I mean hell even dismissing my arguments as "odd words" showed you were out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This coming from the person who admits to arguing for it's own sake,
I didn't say to shut up.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
and has basically had the whole forum on him for filibustering.
You're imagining thing, but your ad hominem continues...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It seems a majority of people here feel you have a reading comprehension problem.
ad populem. 😉

The Earth is flat isn't it?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No different when you do the same,
I don't claim to leave and then . . don't.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
the difference is I have other things to do than to argue for it's own sake 18+ hours a day.
Exagrerating...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You'll most likely be back within 4-5 hours. Pretty soon probably.
So? I never claimed to leave. You did...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Anyone who has read the comments by Wolverine supporters [(objectively) would say otherwise.
Is it possible for you to not appeal to the populous? you keep going, this pperson or that person or the whole forum...

None of which is bvalid.. Ad populem you know?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I agree to an extent
Now you're outright lying.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
but the "fixing" comes from angry fanboys who feel their character is being insulted.
Yeah, I'm a fanboy. 🙄 because I don't agree with you that makes me a fanboy... uh huh...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He's overrated far more than underrated,
😆 Riiight...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
unless Wolverine vs. Iron man is underrating to you.
And there's a lovely little strawman. Hello straman. How are you?

Of Course C-Master will just dismiss this (🙄) like he did before.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I could post some "concrete evidence" (according to you guys) that has 100% consistency of Thing ko'ing wolverine, but it wouldn't be accepted and an excuse would be made.
No you couldn't. 😆 You can post a scan of Thing knocking Wolverine out once out of the multiple times they've encountered each other.

You'll probably even crop out Mr. fantastic pointing out that Wolverine was already messed up.

But oh those are excuses as to why we don't swallow your hater crap. 🙄

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ah so if Storm's lightning was shown to hurt Thanos in a comic, disregarding his other feats of durability, then Storm's lightning can therefore now hurt him. If Cyclops blows a hole in Thanos in a comic then optic blasts can hurt him? PAF energy? Snakes on a plane?
This is another form of the strawman. Taking another person's arguments to extremes.

Guess what? No worries about that other stuff it hasn't happened...

God did I just help to defend that PIS event simply by attacking an illogical statment?

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not sure how much of a feat that is considering that an evil tony starks done it.. 😬

how about thanos vs. stabbings?

Why would a stabbing do more than a black hole, or traveling through realities? And it says, right on panel, that any lesser being, wouldn't have survived. I'de call tony a lesser being.
The only really stabbing feats are by wolverine.
But Thanos has complete control over his body, right down to a molecular level. He's got more duribility than Hulk, why would Wolverine be able to cut him?
Your also saying a cut is more than, the Avengers, Silver Surfer, Warlock, etc.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ah so if Storm's lightning was shown to hurt Thanos in a comic, disregarding his other feats of durability, then Storm's lightning can therefore now hurt him. If Cyclops blows a hole in Thanos in a comic then optic blasts can hurt him? PAF energy? Snakes on a plane?
If storms lightning was shown to hurt other characters of RIDICULOUS levels of durability and thanos had no other feats to directly contradict where he was hurt by it.. then yes the possibility would then be open.

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by bigbran
Why would a stabbing do more than a black hole, or traveling through realities? And it says, right on panel, that any lesser being, wouldn't have survived. I'de call tony a lesser being.
The only really stabbing feats are by wolverine.
But Thanos has complete control over his body, right down to a molecular level. He's got more duribility than Hulk, why would Wolverine be able to cut him?
Your also saying a cut is more than, the Avengers, Silver Surfer, Warlock, etc.

no I'm not.. I'm not saying that at all.. I'm saying that the claws are different than the avengers blah blah blah..
the avengers, the ff, the champions, draxx, silver surfer.. they don't cut hulk open.. wolverine does... same principle applies here, he's not necessarily better. his instruments are just different.. which is why thanos needs feats of not being cut by admantium level blades to prove that wolverine can't do it.. since wolverine himself already has.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
And, people do have pis feats. Spiderman vs Firelord.
Wolverine getting taken out by a hit to the nuts. Him getting taken out by Daredevil.
You call those pis, but then you go around and say, it's happened in a comic.
I haven't called PIS on anything.. 🤨

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by Creshosk
This is another form of the strawman. Taking another person's arguments to extremes.

Guess what? No worries about that other stuff it hasn't happened...

God did I just help to defend that PIS event simply by attacking an illogical statment?

Yes you did. Shame on you. It was a strawman. I knew that when I wrote it, but it was in response to argumentum ad ignorantiam; there are no identical or directly analogous feats to being stabbed by Wolverine's claws therefore one must accept that Wolverine can cut Thanos. Disregarding Thanos other feats of durability which make Wolverine's claws look like being tickled with a down feather and that Wolverine can't stab Colossus.
Originally posted by jinzin
I haven't called PIS on anything.. 🤨
I'm going to agree. Your refusal to accept things as PIS is often exhibited...

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Your refusal to accept things as PIS is often exhibited...
This is true.. dude even tried to justify Spiderman vs Firelord for crying out loud.

Jinzin is a true believer as it were.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by jinzin
I haven't called PIS on anything.. 🤨
Actually, you think those feats, of wolverine getting taken down, were pis, don't you?
But because you haven't called pis....
Ok, then if those feats aren't pis, then Wolverine did get taken down, by a bat to the nuts, And he did get taken down by Daredevil.
One low showing is going to ruin hundreds of high showings.

Wolverine stabbing Thanos is pis. Thanos, not putting up a sheild is pis.
Thanos not batting him a way, before Wolverine got to him is pis.
The whole idea behind it is pis.