Wolverine v3 45

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, because Namor was just standing there, not following his punch with another.

I also noticed that Namor didn't use his flight there...when he has been knocked off before, he has made it ineffective by going flying when he is knocked off his feet...

Holding back.

he was knocked out his feet to fast to react , overspeed by wolverine

I also see that Namor let Wolverine just put his shirt on, have a nice little speech and the wait for him to come to him.

Holding back.

thats funny because wolverine could just keep attacking namor while namor was on the ground, but instead wolverine just went to wear his shirt, so the way i see it wolverine is the one that holding back on namor

Wolverine was on the ground and Namor let him get up instead of kicking him immediatly when he fell down. Hell, he even waited him to say "Something like that..." on ground.

Holding back...

how do you know namor didnt want to do it? the only thing i see is that wolverine got up to fast for namor to react, maybe namor was going to do that but wolverine got up too fast for him and i dont know but i am sure we both see wolverine stabing namor and then throwing him, wolverine even didnt continue to hurt him, if i will go by every wolverine fight, he should continue to cut namor and hurt him but he didnt do it he just threw him away

Not really, Namor didn't admit anything there. He just said that to take him out, Wolverine should try to hit the major organs.

so namor told wolverine to hit major parts, well thats just proves my point , wolverine knows the major parts, in many many wolverine fights he uses major parts to hurt someone like in his fight against captain america, he knows where to stub to kill or to hurt, but he didnt do it, and thats just show that wolverine really was holding back from hurting namor 😉

my answers for each statement are in the quote itself

What I don't get, is how Namor can take hydrogen bombs along with class 100 punches and keep on fighting, but a short fury guy with claws can puncture and hurt him... 😕

Originally posted by wolvertooth
then i can tell you that wolverine wasnt fighting him serious either, wolverine wasnt even angry or berserk i mean look at the picture after wolverine knocked him down of his feet wolverine didnt attack him he went to dress up and namor was on the ground wolverine could easy continue to beat namor but he knocked him and went to dress up
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45004pe9.jpg

I didn't say that Wolverine was fighting at full power.

But he was taking the fight more seriously then Namor.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45005be8.jpg
here you see that namor did use his speed and was faster at that move

Originally posted by wolvertooth
but here wolverine reacted too fast and stab him
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45006rn9.jpg

Namor had at least two seconds to kick Wolverine on the face. He didn't. Namor didn't use his speed, so naturally Wolverine was able to stab him.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
about the daredevil and spider-man vs namor ... namor was fighting full power but its just in the end he got mad and angry and felt like he must do the best he can so he got a boost, wolverine can get into berserk rage and so can anyone and he will be stronger

Originally posted by batdude123
What I don't get, is how Namor can take hydrogen bombs along with class 100 punches and keep on fighting, but a short fury guy with claws can puncture and hurt him... 😕

Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers?

so basically wolverine is the one that holding back against namor

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45004pe9.jpg
wolverine could keep atacking namor but he went to wear his shirt while namor was on the ground

holding back

http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45006rn9.jpg
got up too fast for namor to react but only stabed namor and threw him, if wolverine would fight with full berserk he would continue to stab and cut namor but he just threw him like a trash

holding back

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45008vo3.jpg
namor said that wolverine should hit major parts, but wolverine knows all the right spots like he uses in many fights , but here he didnt use them on namor and thats just show you that wolverine is holding back on namor

overall i want to say i am sorry for saying you are the worst debater, you show nice points and i respect your posts for that

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Shadowcat can phase to survive a hydrogen bomb at it's epicentre, a city levelling blast from a Mega-Sentinel at it's epicentre, can phase through Danger, whom Wolverine can't pierce with his adamantium claws and is thus very dense, can phase through Colossus, whom also can't be cut, can theoretically phase through IW's forcefields, phasing is her natural state and when she's knocked unconscious she's phased, she's phased through adamantium multiple times in the past... but... adamantium claws now hurt her "because they're dense" and she is inexplicably forced into a tangible state.

Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers?

Yeah, I know. 😛

Also, I thought it was VIBRANIUM that she couldn't phase through.... 😕 Eh, Wolverine has an answer for everything. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
What I don't get, is how Namor can take hydrogen bombs along with class 100 punches and keep on fighting, but a short fury guy with claws can puncture and hurt him... 😕

just like the thing taking blasts and canons but was taken down by wolverine, its different kind of force, bombs and energy create presure and the presure cant hurt namor, but wolverine stab him with a sharp 30 cm 3 clwas which are made out of the strongest metal on earth, thats penetration already and thats another kind of force

Originally posted by wolvertooth
just like the thing taking blasts and canons but was taken down by wolverine, its different kind of force, bombs and energy create presure and the presure cant hurt namor, but wolverine stab him with a sharp 30 cm 3 clwas which are made out of the strongest metal on earth, thats penetration already and thats another kind of force

Yes, but there's a difference. Wolverine can only create about 1 ton of force behind those claws. That shouldn't be enough to puncture Namor. It's like having a sharp stainless steel knife and trying to completely stab it in a tree bark. The knife is stronger and more durable, but the density of the tree itself makes it require a lot more force than what normal people can exert. It's the same situation with Wolverine and Namor. I guarantee that one of Hulk's punches creates more force per square inch, than what Wolverine's penetrations can exert. Bottom line: he shouldn't be able to puncture Namor.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
so basically wolverine is the one that holding back against namor

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45004pe9.jpg
wolverine could keep atacking namor but he went to wear his shirt while namor was on the ground

Yeah, it's just that if Namor had punched Wolverine more then once or used flight, he would not be on ground...

Originally posted by wolvertooth
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45006rn9.jpg
got up too fast for namor to react but only stabed namor and threw him, if wolverine would fight with full berserk he would continue to stab and cut namor but he just threw him like a trash

Actually, Namor had at least two seconds to do anything he wants to Wolverine, if he had, Wolverine would not have stabbed him...

Originally posted by wolvertooth
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine45008vo3.jpg
namor said that wolverine should hit major parts, but wolverine knows all the right spots like he uses in many fights , but here he didnt use them on namor and thats just show you that wolverine is holding back on namor

Wolverine would not have been able to hit anything if Namor hadn't been holding back.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
overall i want to say i am sorry for saying you are the worst debater, you show nice points and i respect your posts for that

No hard feelings, it's just an internet debate.

Originally posted by batdude123
Lots of stuff about Wolverine + claws + force

I'm not sure how much force Wolverine can concentrate with his punches. I'm not sure how the ratio works. So, Wolverine is able to lift around 800lbs - 2 tons. Now, he's a trained martial artist, how mcuh pressure do you think his punches can cause..? And, of course wolverine's claws are propably magically sharpened.. Cutting on a molecular level 🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, I know. 😛

Also, I thought it was VIBRANIUM that she couldn't phase through.... 😕 Eh, Wolverine has an answer for everything. 😬

Wolverine secretly works in a underground lab when he's not on the avengers, the A X-men or his own solo missions 😆

Originally posted by Jyppe
I'm not sure how much force Wolverine can concentrate with his punches. I'm not sure how the ratio works. So, Wolverine is able to lift around 800lbs - 2 tons. Now, he's a trained martial artist, how mcuh pressure do you think his punches can cause..? And, of course wolverine's claws are propably magically sharpened.. Cutting on a molecular level 🙄

😆 That's pretty much the general idea.

Originally posted by Jyppe
I'm not sure how much force Wolverine can concentrate with his punches. I'm not sure how the ratio works. So, Wolverine is able to lift around 800lbs - 2 tons. Now, he's a trained martial artist, how mcuh pressure do you think his punches can cause..? And, of course wolverine's claws are propably magically sharpened.. Cutting on a molecular level 🙄

Next issue, Wolverine splits an atom 😆 😛

Originally posted by wolvertooth
even if namor was holding back against daredeil .... daredevil still sent him flying from his blows
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6733/ddnamor36ly.gif
http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorddspidey35wx.gif

and as you can see namor wasnt holding back he was very angry

Namor said that he was treating DD like a toy. While I may find a toy irritating and treat it roughly, which could break it, I rarely go all out, stomping on it or slinging it against the wall with all my strength. I may carelessly toss it across the room though. Of course saying Namor was/wasn't going all out is speculation considering that he said neither but I read it as 'wasnt'.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
namor said that wolverine should hit major parts, but wolverine knows all the right spots like he uses in many fights , but here he didnt use them on namor and thats just show you that wolverine is holding back on namor

IDK, stabbing someone through the chest seems like an attempt to hit major organs. Wolverine knows Namor is tough but perhaps Atlantean physiology is sufficiently different from human physiology that Wolverine didn't hit anything major.

Tho' if Grimm22 is right the Professor Wolvy may have only wanted Namor down long enough to deal with the others. 😛

Wolverine has actually found cures for cancer and AIDS and has pinpointed Osama's location.

Of course he dosent dare revail any of these things, because he would lose his bad boy image 😛

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, it's just that if Namor had punched Wolverine more then once or used flight, he would not be on ground...

Actually, Namor had at least two seconds to do anything he wants to Wolverine, if he had, Wolverine would not have stabbed him...

Wolverine would not have been able to hit anything if Namor hadn't been holding back.

No hard feelings, it's just an internet debate.

if if if.... but namor didnt do it, i could say as well that if wolverine would keep cuting namor he couldnt do anything, but thats not the case here , namor gave wolverine a punch but wolverine knocked him of his feet too fast , namor couldnt continuw to punch wolverine because je felt and quickly knocked namor of his feet , and when namor was down wolverine walked away to wear his shirt and thats just show you that wolverine didnt want to fight namor he wasnt even angry

namor had time to kick wolverine but maybe he thought that wolverine is knocked out and he won

and again you say namor was holding back but i have proved that wolverine was the one that was holding back .... and the fact is that wolverine did hurt namor and when he did it he just stabed him and threw him away while he could continue to cut him and stab him more and more again it showes you that wolverine didnt even want to fight namor

Originally posted by Jyppe
I'm not sure how much force Wolverine can concentrate with his punches. I'm not sure how the ratio works. So, Wolverine is able to lift around 800lbs - 2 tons. Now, he's a trained martial artist, how mcuh pressure do you think his punches can cause..? And, of course wolverine's claws are propably magically sharpened.. Cutting on a molecular level 🙄

first of all wolverine claws are very sharp that means that they have to concetrate on a very small area, and even 1 ton is enough for really sharp 30 cm adamentium claws to panatrate namor because all that preasure goes on a really small area plus wolverines strength , why namor shouldnt be cut? he is not made of some cosmic thing, he is meat ,skin,bones , yes very durable but still , and wolverine is a martial artist , every person that train in martial arts knows how to hit harder, and again he is trained as a samurai he knows how to use a blade, some samurais can cut metal with there swords and thats real life explain that , all this together is enough for him to stab namor, damn the man cuts santinal which is made from metal ... tons of metal and no one sayes a thing but just not namor , if wolverine could stab hulk why cant he stab namor

Originally posted by lft4ded

IDK, stabbing someone through the chest seems like an attempt to hit major organs. Wolverine knows Namor is tough but perhaps Atlantean physiology is sufficiently different from human physiology that Wolverine didn't hit anything major.

Tho' if Grimm22 is right the Professor Wolvy may have only wanted Namor down long enough to deal with the others. 😛

was it stated that namor got different organs? if he had different organs then it would be stated already, he got arms legs eyes just like human why wont he have the organs as well? wolverine just stabed him it the chest and thats it, he threw namor away.... if he wanted to kill him he would cintinue to cut him just like he does in his fights, wolverine was holding back, wolverine knows all the points that can kill all the deadly parts, if he wanted to hurt namor he would do it, even namor admited that wolverine didnt try to hit his major parts, wolverine didnt even fight him seriusly just wanted him to get out of his way

Originally posted by wolvertooth
if if if.... but namor didnt do it, i could say as well that if wolverine would keep cuting namor he couldnt do anything, but thats not the case here , namor gave wolverine a punch but wolverine knocked him of his feet too fast , namor couldnt continuw to punch wolverine because je felt and quickly knocked namor of his feet , and when namor was down wolverine walked away to wear his shirt and thats just show you that wolverine didnt want to fight namor he wasnt even angry

Yeah, he didn't do it. Why? Because he was holding back. An all-out Namor would have just kept punching Wolverine until there would have been nothing else then a bloody mass of adamantium bones left. He would not have given him time to kick him, he would have kept punching him while he was falling down.

And Namor wasn't angry either. He after all, let Wolverine dress up.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
namor had time to kick wolverine but maybe he thought that wolverine is knocked out and he won

He was talking. Knocked out people usually don't talk.

Namor didn't kick Wolverine because he was holding back.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
and again you say namor was holding back but i have proved that wolverine was the one that was holding back .... and the fact is that wolverine did hurt namor and when he did it he just stabed him and threw him away while he could continue to cut him and stab him more and more again it showes you that wolverine didnt even want to fight namor

So, they both were holding back.

Still doesn't change the fact that only time Wolverine gets a chance to stab Namor is that if Namor is holding back.