Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all it doesnt state that he was holding back against them both just that he was weakened after he was out the water , but he was fighting full power , you say he always show much better speed well.... most of his fights are in the water or with not very fast fighters, but how fast is he out the water and against someone as fast as wolverine? you saw that he had some trouble to hit daredevil and that was at the beginnig of the fight when it wasnt so long after he got out of the water and he was fresh, ans still daredevil was too fast for him, he always fight someone strong but not really fast so you cant say that he is very fast at fighting on the ground, the skills also play a huge part here, wolverine was too skilled for him and thats the reason why wolverine knocked him off his feet and stabed him due to his skills i dont see whats so unreal here , namor was trying to talk to him??? yeee at the beginning but then namor punched him and began to fight him ... he was fighting wolverine , so overall it doesnt matter how strong namor is or how much weight can he press, wolverine was too skilled and just used it to stab namor and i say he could kill him if it wasnt namors guard, so whatever you say got no base and stupid
And you haven't even read the fricking issue where he fights DD. He had been out of water, for long time, he was only playing with them both, and only in the last page he starts taking it seriously. All this is stated throughout the fight. You can't ignore the facts.
And how fast is he out of water? Well, here are just some of his lesser speed feats...
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif
http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/152/namorspeedfeat318vl.gif
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3396/namorspeedfeat476fb.gif
He could have killed Namor because Namor was holding back. He was not using his full speed, he was not using his full skills, he was not using his full strength. How do I know that? I can see it. I have seen Namor using more speed, more strength, and more skills in the past. Namor was holding back through the fight. It is a fact that you can see from the comic.
And he was talking to him even when he was fighting. And he let him dress up. And he let him get up after he had knocked him down.
I'd advise you to read the fights we are discussing about. I'd also advise you to read Namor examples outside the Wolverine fight, and not only use his low showings.
I have said this before. I don't use low showings for Wolverine, you shouldn't use low showings for Namor.
If you want to, however, I can use Wolverine's low showings too...