Originally posted by rotiart
Quasar... was trained by a cosmic entity...Quasar on his own beat maelstrom.. who became a cosmic entity.. in other words.. abstract level.
Quasar on his own... beat Ego... again.. Abstract level.
A green lantern Ring can hold the power of a big bang. It can make the heavens ladder where the quantum mechanics, Dc's race of uber comsics tech. Quasar doesnt' have that kind of power. He's very good. But in the end, he would just be over powered.
You mean the classic Ion? Where he power of oblivion was trapped within the sun.. and no other person could claim it? So he, with his GL ring could tap into the ambient GL energy trapped there to become Ion?
Or the current Ion, where Jade gave him her access to the starheart as she died. Which has merged the energies of the magical starheart within Kyle with a GL ring that was the most powerful ring in existence.. as it was the last ring made by the Guardians before their "destruction" at the hands of parallax?
Ion was not "chosen", he just was.
Originally posted by rotiart
You mean the classic Ion? Where he power of oblivion was trapped within the sun.. and no other person could claim it? So he, with his GL ring could tap into the ambient GL energy trapped there to become Ion?Or the current Ion, where Jade gave him her access to the starheart as she died. Which has merged the energies of the magical starheart within Kyle with a GL ring that was the most powerful ring in existence.. as it was the last ring made by the Guardians before their "destruction" at the hands of parallax?
Ion was not "chosen", he just was.
The presence makes every thing as it is in DC. Kyle was chosen to be Ion.
Originally posted by rotiart
So you're saying the presence chose Kyle to be Ion then? It wasn't the Guardians?Nice. Well then they also chose for Spectre to go rogue and come back... for Antimonitor to wreck the multiverse... and... what else... alex luthor to try to trestart his universe by killing every other one.
Pretty much. It all worked out in the end didn't it? Every thing is, as it should be. When you can take every sinlge Jla story with kyle in it, and replace him with quasar, and quasar can pull thru for them like kyle did, then quasar wins. Quasar is a great character, and he can give kyle a good fight, but he is just not as versatile and powerful. People on these forums are always talking about versatility. Kyle has Quasar beat. ANd his ring is more powerful.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A green lantern Ring can hold the power of a big bang. It can make the heavens ladder where the quantum mechanics, Dc's race of uber comsics tech. Quasar doesnt' have that kind of power. He's very good. But in the end, he would just be over powered.
How do you overpower a guy that can shunt away all your energy or throw it back at you? Overpowered here isn't going to happen I'm afraid.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Pretty much. It all worked out in the end didn't it? Every thing is, as it should be. When you can take every sinlge Jla story with kyle in it, and replace him with quasar, and quasar can pull thru for them like kyle did, then quasar wins. Quasar is a great character, and he can give kyle a good fight, but he is just not as versatile and powerful. People on these forums are always talking about versatility. Kyle has Quasar beat. ANd his ring is more powerful.
His ring being more powerful is questionable... People have pounded on Kyles shields before and gotten them to break...
Its taken the likes of skyfather's to break through Quasars shields...
Quasar has even redirected the energies of a full on phoenix attack
Kyle tends to create devices.. imagery.. mechs.. cartoon characters.. even other scantily clad superheroines... to distract his foes.
Quasar, which he has done similar... has siphoned off the power cosmic from surfer himself... OUT of surfer's body. not taking any attack from surfer. but taking the pc from surfer himself.. and using it in his attack against surfer.
Kylre Rayner as a rookie took on parallax. SOmething that even a seasoned quasar doesn't have the power to do. Kyle wins this. Especially after being green lantern for all these years. He knows some stuff now. There is nothing that quasar can do that Kyle cannot out do. I dont' think quasar has the power to battle Kyle, if Kyle makes an army of Gl's, he has done that before, amps himself up to be like hulk, which he has done, and more. Good fight, but kyle will win this one.
When Quasar fought Surfer... as champions of Chaos and Order respectively... Quasar created a body armor for himself that withstood surfers best attacks. In the end Quasar threw the fight, so that Surfer could win, and restore Order to the universe... Quasar can stalemate the surfer easily enough... and yet you're saying Kyle owns Quasar?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kylre Rayner as a rookie took on parallax. SOmething that even a seasoned quasar doesn't have the power to do. Kyle wins this. Especially after being green lantern for all these years. He knows some stuff now. There is nothing that quasar can do that Kyle cannot out do. I dont' think quasar has the power to battle Kyle, if Kyle makes an army of Gl's, he has done that before, amps himself up to be like hulk, which he has done, and more. Good fight, but kyle will win this one.
Uh, we already said Quasar has fought several abstracts as well, plus can just throw all the ring energy into the quantum zone, so all those new play figures will get blown into nothing.
Quasar has redirected blasts from the Phoenix etc etc.................actually that was accomplished through a making a nifty hamster crawl looking tube it was so crafty!
You're acting like Quasar cannot make constructs either...........he is a mack at making constructs and after he's done with them they stick around (I know GL's are doing this now but at the time is was unique to Quasar🙂
There's a reason why there are thousands of GL's to guard everything and only one Quasar!
Originally posted by rotiart
When Quasar fought Surfer... as champions of Chaos and Order respectively... Quasar created a body armor for himself that withstood surfers best attacks. In the end Quasar threw the fight, so that Surfer could win, and restore Order to the universe... Quasar can stalemate the surfer easily enough... and yet you're saying Kyle owns Quasar?
Answer my question, does quasar have the power to contain a big bang? Does quasar have the power to do this?
http://img68.echo.cx/my.php?image=greenlantern124p193vg.jpg
Can Quasar even hope to have the power to face parallax? Not on his best day.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Answer my question, does quasar have the power to contain a big bang?
Why contain it, he would just blow the energy into the Quantum zone. It wouldn't be an issue of containment with him just displacing it.
Can Quasar even hope to have the power to face parallax? Not on his best day.
Probably would do just fine.
Originally posted by Soleran
Uh, we already said Quasar has fought several abstracts as well, plus can just throw all the ring energy into the quantum zone, so all those new play figures will get blown into nothing.Quasar has redirected blasts from the Phoenix etc etc.................actually that was accomplished through a making a nifty hamster crawl looking tube it was so crafty!
You're acting like Quasar cannot make constructs either...........he is a mack at making constructs and after he's done with them they stick around (I know GL's are doing this now but at the time is was unique to Quasar🙂
There's a reason why there are thousands of GL's to guard everything and only one Quasar!
Gl is older than quasar. And thier contructs are better and they can make more of them. Quasar on panel has never been shown to equal the power of a gl. ANd if we are talking about kyle as Gl, he was the only one at the time, with the most powerful gl ring ever. He wins this by a mile.
Originally posted by Soleran
Why contain it, he would just blow the energy into the Quantum zone. It wouldn't be an issue of containment with him just displacing it.Probably would do just fine.
LOL. Now your just digging. Parallax is above abstract lvl beings. And now ur saying quasar would do just fine. LMAO. He is not in the possession of the most powerful weapon in the universe. And kyle's ring was the most powerful green lantern ring ever. Quasar looses.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Gl is older than quasar. And thier contructs are better and they can make more of them. Quasar on panel has never been shown to equal the power of a gl. ANd if we are talking about kyle as Gl, he was the only one at the time, with the most powerful gl ring ever. He wins this by a mile.
Are you kidding me? First you have to consider its Kyle GL. You're talking about Kyle ION. Lets get this straight okay. After Hal Jordan reignited the sun, he left a piece of his energy inside that sun that was growing exponentially. Towards the end where Kyle fought DC Oblivion, he discovered that for months, the reason why he hasn't had to recharge his ring is that he has been drawing upon that greater energy. So for the LONGEST time, he's been drawing on energies greater than allowed by his battery alone. Its why he can create so MANY constructs with his fights against effigy. It was stated soon after that was where he drew his energy from. Even when he was contested about his power by the Sentinel. Alan said that Kyle had a lot of power, but not enough skill. Then came the whole deal with Oblivion, and guess what. We discover, yes, its not just the ring, its Kyle's connection to the parallax energy!
Quasar on panel defeated Anomaly another Cosmic Entity. He defeated deathurge, the champion of Marvel Oblivion, who is a sibling of Eternity.
Quasar on his own erected a shield bubble that held against all members of the Shiar Imperial Guard, which includes even Gladiator.
Quasar also errected a shield against that held off against Earth Hero's including Hulk, Hercules Cyclops, Thing, Wolverine, and Thor. The shield was only broken when Quasar became distracted by Pip the troll and Thanos and Adam WArlcok also attacked the shiled.
Lets not forget that Wendell was also a shield agent before he became Quasar... so he also has knowledge of hand to hand combat.
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Originally posted by Acrosurge
To each, his own speculation. To each, his own opinions.I simply see Quasar as being a step above the top tier Lanterns. There really isn't anything they can do that he cannot. That, and he lacks the recent, low showings that Kyle was given during Identity Crisis. *shrugs*
Quasar has some pretty low showings as well. I thought on these forums, we dont go by low showings. Cuz every one has those.
Yeah exactly now do we want to toss the high showings or are you specific to low showings only?
Once again there are thousands of GL's that do the job of one Quasar, that alone speaks highly of him.
Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah exactly now do we want to toss the high showings or are you specific to low showings only?Once again there are thousands of GL's that do the job of one Quasar, that alone speaks highly of him.
Quasar doesn't protect the universe. And if you think one quasar could stop SBP then ur mistaken. Thousands of Gl's equals thousands of people who are more powerful than quasar. It really comes down to the power of the wielder. Kyle had the most powerful green lantern ring ever. The normal rings were a match for quasar. Kyle has much to versitility with his ring. I showed kyle making an entire corps each with thier own will and creativity, helping him. Quasar couldn't hope to match that. He just can't. He's great, and would give a good fight, but he can't win.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Gl is older than quasar. And thier contructs are better and they can make more of them. Quasar on panel has never been shown to equal the power of a gl. ANd if we are talking about kyle as Gl, he was the only one at the time, with the most powerful gl ring ever. He wins this by a mile.
GL is not older than quasar. The corps yes, not Kyle vs. Wendell.
Wendells first appearance was in 1978
Kyles was in 1994
Whos older?
As far as being equal in power? Kyle as a GL made constructs, he never willed things to happen. Wendell past that point a long time ago...
Kyle typically creates energy manifestations that "attack" or cause damage to another being.
Quasar has been shown to manipulate the energies WITHIN another person, without waving his hands... showy displays of power... or the whatnot. It just happens.
Kyle as Ion is now doing things that Quasar did way back in the 90's.
Taking out a whole armada? been there. A squadron of superheros by himself? done (shiar imperial guard and Squadron supreme) defeated cosmic entities? He challenged Oblivion, a sibling of Eternity...
Quasar is no lightweight by any means.
