Quasar vs. Green Lantern (Kyle)

Originally posted by rotiart
Are you kidding me? First you have to consider its Kyle GL. You're talking about Kyle ION. Lets get this straight okay. After Hal Jordan reignited the sun, he left a piece of his energy inside that sun that was growing exponentially. Towards the end where Kyle fought DC Oblivion, he discovered that for months, the reason why he hasn't had to recharge his ring is that he has been drawing upon that greater energy. So for the LONGEST time, he's been drawing on energies greater than allowed by his battery alone. Its why he can create so MANY constructs with his fights against effigy. It was stated soon after that was where he drew his energy from. Even when he was contested about his power by the Sentinel. Alan said that Kyle had a lot of power, but not enough skill. Then came the whole deal with Oblivion, and guess what. We discover, yes, its not just the ring, its Kyle's connection to the parallax energy!

Quasar on panel defeated Anomaly another Cosmic Entity. He defeated deathurge, the champion of Marvel Oblivion, who is a sibling of Eternity.

Quasar on his own erected a shield bubble that held against all members of the Shiar Imperial Guard, which includes even Gladiator.

Quasar also errected a shield against that held off against Earth Hero's including Hulk, Hercules Cyclops, Thing, Wolverine, and Thor. The shield was only broken when Quasar became distracted by Pip the troll and Thanos and Adam WArlcok also attacked the shiled.

Lets not forget that Wendell was also a shield agent before he became Quasar... so he also has knowledge of hand to hand combat.

Please dont' tell me what i'm talking about. I"m not talking about IOn Kyle. I"m talking about Kyle with his ring. Period. You naming all this stuff that quasar did, and it is not showing that he can beat kyle. all it's doing is showing that he is a great character. Quasar has nothing in his arsenal that he could out do kyle with.

You still haven't proven me wrong. Kyle at the points and time frames you mention was drawing power from outside of just his ring. He was more powerful than a GL because he had already approached ION status.

You know he could just throw Kyle in the Quantum Zone and be done with it.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
You know he could just throw Kyle in the Quantum Zone and be done with it.

And Kyle could just Throw Quasar into the phantom zone and be done with it.

The difference between GL Kyle and GL Kyle with Ion Influence, is the same difference as superman sundipped or warrior madness thor.

And if it is Ion level Kyle, then no of course Quasar doesn't defeat that guy.. but it isn't... its GL Kyle. So guess what. Kyle dies. Quasar drags Kyle into the Quantam zone, and drains his ring of its power source, and leaves him to starve to death there.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Kyle could just Throw Quasar into the phantom zone and be done with it.

I was unaware that Kyle carried the Phantom Zone projector on him at all times.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please tell me your kidding. The Gl rings can also absorb energy. I love how people take one thing to thier liking and use it to discredit a character. The gl ring is master of everything. Energy, light waves, solid constructs, and will power. It would be a matter of who's will power is stronger. And kyle's ring doesnt have that weakness to being depleted of energy any longer. he got rid of that.

He got rid of that weakness after becoming ION btw. GL kyle still had that weakness.

Originally posted by rotiart
You still haven't proven me wrong. Kyle at the points and time frames you mention was drawing power from outside of just his ring. He was more powerful than a GL because he had already approached ION status.

Even at Gl status, He helped to fight angels, a quantum mechanique
(more powerful than anything quasar has faced), he has literally created giant superman, armies of daxamites and gl corps. Quasar is out done here. And just like quasar can channel and absorb and redirect energy, so can kyle. So they would most likely have to battle it out. and Kyle would be too much for quasar. any way, since most people who read marvel think thier marvel heroes can beat any dc hero, i won't bother to argue anymore. Cuz according to some, quasar can stand up to parallax. Kyle has stood up to parallax as a rookie. Quasar's bands just dont' have the versatility that the ring does. the ring can tranmute matter. It can make the wearer into energy or take the wearers enemy and trap them within it forever.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
I was unaware that Kyle carried the Phantom Zone projector on him at all times.

Are you serious? he can just make it. What does he need to carry it for?

Originally posted by B dot Rob
I was unaware that Kyle carried the Phantom Zone projector on him at all times.

He doesn't. Neverbeenwithagirl has been reaching for excuses why Kyle would win.

He forgets that after a certain point, it wasn't simply GL kyle anymore. Kyle himself even noticed he didn't have to charge his ring anymore, and couldn't explain it. At least until he found out about Oblivion, the energy within the sun.. and henceforth became Ion. After that he came back, his ring still without the yellow weakness, and left his ring with no need to ever have to recharge.

As for Kyle creating devices... he did so usually with mental implantations from other characters, who directed him as to how to create the devices they needed.

GL Kyle is not Ion Kyle. You keep reaching for that cookie and I'll have to keep slapping your hand! 💃

Originally posted by rotiart
He doesn't. Neverbeenwithagirl has been reaching for excuses why Kyle would win.

He forgets that after a certain point, it wasn't simply GL kyle anymore. Kyle himself even noticed he didn't have to charge his ring anymore, and couldn't explain it. At least until he found out about Oblivion, the energy within the sun.. and henceforth became Ion. After that he came back, his ring still without the yellow weakness, and left his ring with no need to ever have to recharge.

As for Kyle creating devices... he did so usually with mental implantations from other characters, who directed him as to how to create the devices they needed.

GL Kyle is not Ion Kyle. You keep reaching for that cookie and I'll have to keep slapping your hand! 💃

The rings themselves instruct the wearer.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Even at Gl status, He helped to fight angels, a quantum mechanique
(more powerful than anything quasar has faced), he has literally created giant superman, armies of daxamites and gl corps. Quasar is out done here. And just like quasar can channel and absorb and redirect energy, so can kyle. So they would most likely have to battle it out. and Kyle would be too much for quasar. any way, since most people who read marvel think thier marvel heroes can beat any dc hero, i won't bother to argue anymore. Cuz according to some, quasar can stand up to parallax. Kyle has stood up to parallax as a rookie. Quasar's bands just dont' have the versatility that the ring does. the ring can tranmute matter. It can make the wearer into energy or take the wearers enemy and trap them within it forever.

One character who tried to absorb the energies of Quasar, found out that Quasar was the master of energy absorbtion, and ended up being left drained in exchange.

Mind you quasar has outposts set throughout the entire Universe, that warns him of danger in all sectors, so he can go where he is needed. He even put a lattice over earth to warn him whenever starships enter earth. He has created it so his mind can never be tampered with, by scientific means. If magically he is coerced, a failsafe will eventually be enacted which will restore him to his well being. He himself has managed to defeat a person who had the power to kill Eternity.

And as for "marvel people" thinking dc automatically loses. Kyle is in my top 3 of favorite characters... In fact I was interested in knowing where the story goes with him having come out of Mogo just recently...

I've shown you the weakness of your character.. you just didn't like it. 😛 Kyle as Ion wins outright, but GL Kyle loses to the seasoned veteran that is Wendell Vahn.

Great fight. Both have amazing feats, but GL can pretty much counter anything Quasar does.

And vice versa.

Originally posted by rotiart
One character who tried to absorb the energies of Quasar, found out that Quasar was the master of energy absorbtion, and ended up being left drained in exchange.

Mind you quasar has outposts set throughout the entire Universe, that warns him of danger in all sectors, so he can go where he is needed. He even put a lattice over earth to warn him whenever starships enter earth. He has created it so his mind can never be tampered with, by scientific means. If magically he is coerced, a failsafe will eventually be enacted which will restore him to his well being. He himself has managed to defeat a person who had the power to kill Eternity.

And as for "marvel people" thinking dc automatically loses. Kyle is in my top 3 of favorite characters... In fact I was interested in knowing where the story goes with him having come out of Mogo just recently...

I've shown you the weakness of your character.. you just didn't like it. 😛 Kyle as Ion wins outright, but GL Kyle loses to the seasoned veteran that is Wendell Vahn.

Well considering the JLA has faced many many menances, I'll take kyles experience with them over quasar's any day. Quasar just has not been shown to be the day saving character that gl has. And in my opionion, that is where quasar comes short. Kyle has come thru and saved the day. And when your around the likes of the justice league, that's saying something. I put quasar on a team with thor and surfer. This debate is getting us no where.

Even Captain Marvel has been able to attune to the exact energy frequence the GL rings function on and manipulate not only the energies of the rings, but their constructs also! And quasar has been shown to create and absorb any energy he desires. He's even shown he can use his bands to determine what frequence you work on and use it against you as he did against Quantum.

When has Kyle ever done that to another similar energy wielder.

Rookie Wendell defeated a watcher. Seasoned Wendell defeated the plans of a person on par with Eternity.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well considering the JLA has faced many many menances, I'll take kyles experience with them over quasar's any day. Quasar just has not been shown to be the day saving character that gl has. And in my opionion, that is where quasar comes short. Kyle has come thru and saved the day. And when your around the likes of the justice league, that's saying something. I put quasar on a team with thor and surfer. This debate is getting us no where.

And for the majority of his time as a GL he was disrespected as a powerhouse. Even Flash wished they had Hal back as Kyle was basically the black sheep of the team until recent years.

Originally posted by rotiart
Even Captain Marvel has been able to attune to the exact energy frequence the GL rings function on and manipulate not only the energies of the rings, but their constructs also! And quasar has been shown to create and absorb any energy he desires. He's even shown he can use his bands to determine what frequence you work on and use it against you as he did against Quantum.

When has Kyle ever done that to another similar energy wielder.

Rookie Wendell defeated a watcher. Seasoned Wendell defeated the plans of a person on par with Eternity.

parallax is more powerful than eternity as he can erase all that is and was, and kyle stood up to him. And Just becuz monica was able to match the rings energy, doesn't mean she can use it limitlessly. The rings are powered by oa. and she didn't have a connection to oa. And kyle absorbed the power of a cosmic cube and used it's energies much like the cube. SO they are pretty much stale mated in that area.

Originally posted by rotiart
And for the majority of his time as a GL he was disrespected as a powerhouse. Even Flash wished they had Hal back as Kyle was basically the black sheep of the team until recent years.

Wally wanted hal back becuz of thier relationship. It has nothing to do with kyle's performance. Kyle did things with his ring that no other gl had ever done. Tell wendell vaughn to beat back some angles. he can't. he controls quantum energy. That is a physical force of nature. The energy of oa is beyond that. It is physical, energy, metaphysical, telepathic, it's anything the wearer needs it to be.