Quasar vs. Green Lantern (Kyle)

Originally posted by rotiart
Before you harp on my case. I said a long time ago my stance on the differences between the GL Kyle and Kyle since his Ion upgrade...

If its Kyle with upgrade, quasar doesn't stand a chance.

If its regular GL Kyle, Quasar does.

Thats the whole point of why I'm arguing the way I am. Cause "Ion" would just rewrite reality.

Still if you're just arguing about a GL Kyle with no yellow impurity, and unlimited access to energy... Quasar can still tap into the Oan energy that is kyles... and siphon it off. And use that energy against Kyle like he did against Surfer and Quantum. To say it can't be done. Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) has already done it to Kyle. And Kyle tends to do all of his displays of power by creating constructs to do it for him. Quasar could counter. As for Kyle creating dozens of constructs... Quasar as an unknown quantity of energy constructs throughout the breadth of the entire universe to aid him as protector of the universe. He has monitoring stations also and energy lattices. He is by no small means a weak opponent. And could possibly beat even your definition of what a GL is.

Kyle has never had the yellow impurity, and he's always had pretty much unlimited access to GL energy.

This was long before he became Ion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That's not true, he got owned when he was bouncing thru time. I can't remember the story. i got it somewhere. he went and met the legion and the daxamit bad guy owned him so easily. Superman can't beat daxamites. He's not supposed to. Daxamites were an advnaced race of krytonians who left and for some reason, the planet they moved to, gave them even stronger genetic structure. at least that is what is official dc editorials say.

Yeah, one time. He's owned Daxamites before.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
blah blah blah....its the S sheild, its always been stated that they > him....😬

Even darkseid loses to the S shield... eer

Originally posted by rotiart
See... sigh.. this is what I mean. All of those "recent" events.. are due to the fact that he wasn't using his GL ring, but rather the energy that was released by Parallax. Its not even his own energy, but something else altogether, its the equivalent of a superman sundipped...

What are you talking about? He's been using his ring until recently when he became a completely different Ion.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Kyle has never had the yellow impurity, and he's always had pretty much unlimited access to GL energy.

This was long before he became Ion.

I know he hasn't ever had the yellow impurity, last ring of Ganthets etc.
But when Kyle noticed he had to charge his battery less and less, he didn't know what to attribute it to. Later when the whole Oblivion thing happened it made sense. In those times leading to his "upgrade" he had actually been siphoning off energy from the sun that Parallax had ignited.

Thats why I'm saying it isn't exactly the easiest way to judge this fight... cause Quasar isn't going to have showings where he had an extra powersource.

In fact I'll just make a Kyle vs Hal Thread.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What are you talking about? He's been using his ring until recently when he became a completely different Ion.

Apparent upgrade in power usage.. less times having to recharge... creating "living" creatures.. ie.. his dark self.. that did not have color.

Showing that it took an exorbitant amount of more power to creature creatures with other colors was possible but required a lot more power.. which was actually correlated during the oblivion saga to the parallax energy. Everything since the sun being reignited... shows that in the Oblivion saga, that Kyle was drawing increasing amounts of energy from the sun.

Originally posted by rotiart
In fact I'll just make a Kyle vs Hal Thread.

DON'T. I already made that thread. 😐

Too late.

Originally posted by rotiart
Apparent upgrade in power usage.. less times having to recharge... creating "living" creatures.. ie.. his dark self.. that did not have color.

Showing that it took an exorbitant amount of more power to creature creatures with other colors was possible but required a lot more power.. which was actually correlated during the oblivion saga to the parallax energy. Everything since the sun being reignited... shows that in the Oblivion saga, that Kyle was drawing increasing amounts of energy from the sun.

That has nothing to do with after he became Ion and then gave up the power.

I don't think my point is coming across. So I'll give it up.

Btw. did a search for Hal Jordan and Quasar... didn't find a thread...

Oh well.. if there is one they'll close mine.

Originally posted by rotiart
I don't think my point is coming across. So I'll give it up.

Btw. did a search for Hal Jordan and Quasar... didn't find a thread...

Oh well.. if there is one they'll close mine.

In your quote, you said you'd make a Hal Jordan vs. Kyle Rayner. That's the thread I made. 😐

Originally posted by rotiart
Apparent upgrade in power usage.. less times having to recharge... creating "living" creatures.. ie.. his dark self.. that did not have color.

Showing that it took an exorbitant amount of more power to creature creatures with other colors was possible but required a lot more power.. which was actually correlated during the oblivion saga to the parallax energy. Everything since the sun being reignited... shows that in the Oblivion saga, that Kyle was drawing increasing amounts of energy from the sun.

Originally posted by batdude123
DON'T. I already made that thread. 😐

Originally posted by rotiart
I don't think my point is coming across. So I'll give it up.

Btw. did a search for Hal Jordan and Quasar... didn't find a thread...

Oh well.. if there is one they'll close mine.

There was already one before either of yours:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=383907&highlight=title%3A%28Hal+Jordan+vs+Kyle+Raynor%29+forumid%3A77

Originally posted by Tron
There was already one before either of yours:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=383907&highlight=title%3A%28Hal+Jordan+vs+Kyle+Raynor%29+forumid%3A77

More people replied to mine. 😛

Kyle wins.

Case Closed.

😂

Originally posted by rotiart
Before you harp on my case. I said a long time ago my stance on the differences between the GL Kyle and Kyle since his Ion upgrade...

If its Kyle with upgrade, quasar doesn't stand a chance.

If its regular GL Kyle, Quasar does.

Thats the whole point of why I'm arguing the way I am. Cause "Ion" would just rewrite reality.

Still if you're just arguing about a GL Kyle with no yellow impurity, and unlimited access to energy... Quasar can still tap into the Oan energy that is kyles... and siphon it off. And use that energy against Kyle like he did against Surfer and Quantum. To say it can't be done. Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) has already done it to Kyle. And Kyle tends to do all of his displays of power by creating constructs to do it for him. Quasar could counter. As for Kyle creating dozens of constructs... Quasar as an unknown quantity of energy constructs throughout the breadth of the entire universe to aid him as protector of the universe. He has monitoring stations also and energy lattices. He is by no small means a weak opponent. And could possibly beat even your definition of what a GL is.