Cause he's not really a green lantern anymore since the whole Ion thing. He's been Ion-lite, the entire time, since his powers are more than any Green Lanterns. You'd have to take away the Starheart and give him a regular ring for it to be him as a green lantern. He has unlimited access to the battery. He is at last showing, unlike any other green lantern. Hence Ion. He was empowered by energies other than his own battery... even Hal is now only powered by the ring with a battery like everyone else.
Originally posted by rotiart
Except that post Ion, you can't really consider Kyle a GL anymore. Hes either Ion or Ion-lite... he doesn't follow the rules.. powersets of any other GL anymore. In fact he does things that other GLs can't do... which means.. he's not really a GL.
Who gives a shit? They said GL KYLE....who gives a crap if hes "ion-lite" in your opinion or not? Its who he is, so it happens. He wins. Thanks for your time 😐
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Who gives a shit? They said GL KYLE....who gives a crap if hes "ion-lite" in your opinion or not? Its who he is, so it happens. He wins. Thanks for your time 😐
NO need to be rude about it but yeah, basically ur right, cuz anything that is said that can prove that he can win, will be considered ion lite.
Originally posted by rotiart
Except that post Ion, you can't really consider Kyle a GL anymore. Hes either Ion or Ion-lite... he doesn't follow the rules.. powersets of any other GL anymore. In fact he does things that other GLs can't do... which means.. he's not really a GL.
Ok, that just says that Kyle is powerful. Even in GL mode.
He was GL for quite a while "between" Ion phases.
Your opinion, or what you consider him to be are not important in this fight. He is CALLED a Green Lantern, he was put into this fight by name. We can go off HIS powerlevels even if to YOU they seem to high. However, and Im being frank, I dont care if you dont think they should be used in this fight. Its being used, because thats who he IS. Period point blank.
Originally posted by rotiart
Thats still not "GL" he was still drawing from and having more power than any other GL. He gave his ring more power, and the ability to never have to recharge between his Ion phases. I don't consider that guy as GL either. He doesn't have the restrictions of other GLs.
Doesn't matter what you think. He's was still a GL.
That he was the most "powerful" GL is a debate that should be kept outside of this thread.
Originally posted by rotiart
The difference between GL Kyle and GL Kyle with Ion Influence, is the same difference as superman sundipped or warrior madness thor.And if it is Ion level Kyle, then no of course Quasar doesn't defeat that guy.. but it isn't... its GL Kyle. So guess what. Kyle dies. Quasar drags Kyle into the Quantam zone, and drains his ring of its power source, and leaves him to starve to death there.
Before you harp on my case. I said a long time ago my stance on the differences between the GL Kyle and Kyle since his Ion upgrade...
If its Kyle with upgrade, quasar doesn't stand a chance.
If its regular GL Kyle, Quasar does.
Thats the whole point of why I'm arguing the way I am. Cause "Ion" would just rewrite reality.
Still if you're just arguing about a GL Kyle with no yellow impurity, and unlimited access to energy... Quasar can still tap into the Oan energy that is kyles... and siphon it off. And use that energy against Kyle like he did against Surfer and Quantum. To say it can't be done. Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) has already done it to Kyle. And Kyle tends to do all of his displays of power by creating constructs to do it for him. Quasar could counter. As for Kyle creating dozens of constructs... Quasar as an unknown quantity of energy constructs throughout the breadth of the entire universe to aid him as protector of the universe. He has monitoring stations also and energy lattices. He is by no small means a weak opponent. And could possibly beat even your definition of what a GL is.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Who gives a shit? They said GL KYLE....who gives a crap if hes "ion-lite" in your opinion or not? Its who he is, so it happens. He wins. Thanks for your time 😐
Have I been giving the impression that I'm insulting to others? That I'm being rude? If I did in earlier posts I'm sorry. If I didn't, then why do it to me, I'm just giving my impressions of the fight.
Originally posted by rotiart
Have I been giving the impression that I'm insulting to others? That I'm being rude? If I did in earlier posts I'm sorry. If I didn't, then why do it to me, I'm just giving my impressions of the fight.
Ive been here long enough that people know Im not a rude person.....Not in the best of moods, so if Im coming off strong.....sorry 😬
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Kyle creates 6 independent and truly alive constructs (Firestorm couldnt transmute them becuase they really were alive) and all with GL rings they kick his butt 😬*AND one of them could ALSO control the speedforce, and one was a daxamite (>superman level)
Superman has defeated every Daxamite he's encountered. 😐 Don't start that. 👆
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Kyle creates 6 independent and truly alive constructs (Firestorm couldnt transmute them becuase they really were alive) and all with GL rings they kick his butt 😬*AND one of them could ALSO control the speedforce, and one was a daxamite (>superman level)
See... sigh.. this is what I mean. All of those "recent" events.. are due to the fact that he wasn't using his GL ring, but rather the energy that was released by Parallax. Its not even his own energy, but something else altogether, its the equivalent of a superman sundipped...
Originally posted by batdude123
Superman has defeated every Daxamite he's encountered. 😐 Don't start that. 👆
That's not true, he got owned when he was bouncing thru time. I can't remember the story. i got it somewhere. he went and met the legion and the daxamit bad guy owned him so easily. Superman can't beat daxamites. He's not supposed to. Daxamites were an advnaced race of krytonians who left and for some reason, the planet they moved to, gave them even stronger genetic structure. at least that is what is official dc editorials say.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ive been here long enough that people know Im not a rude person.....Not in the best of moods, so if Im coming off strong.....sorry 😬
For a second I thought you had me confused with a certain Rhino or something...
And I know what you mean about moods. I spent 7 hours at work.. now when I get off in an hour, I have to take my girl out to a lakeside for an astronomy class, which is an hour drive there... then back... I plan to leave at 7 and not come home til midnight... mind you I'm not even in that class 🙁
I wonder if i can get my hands on some crackerjacks for the drive.