100 ARC Troopers vs. ROTS Sidious

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100 ARC Troopers vs. ROTS Sidious

100 ARC Troopers vs. ROTS Sidious

I thought we had Yoda, Sidious and Maul vs 250 Arcs, and Yoda and co. lost badly. So will Sidious I belive...

It's the same principle that the Jedi who faced Order 66 had to deal with. Individually, they would have been able to slaughter the Clonetroopers - but could not deal with their overwhelming numbers and technology.

That said, we've seen that Yoda and Obi-Wan can handle dozens of troopers from the 501st Legion (the elite), with apparent ease. And Sidious himself said that: "I am sure that dozens of Jedi escaped with their lives", meaning that the Clonetroopers weren't infallible and a particularly skilled Jedi could escape.

So... how does a standard ARC trooper measure up to a 501st? Either way, I don't see Sidious taking one hundred at the same time. He'd likely be slaughtered, after taking out a few.

In a straight fight, Sidious goes down. Simple as that. He begins to use all his energy and get maybe forty of them if they were grouped semi-tight (not typical for ARC Troopers), and he gets sniped or ripped apart with highly trained troopers with repeating blasters. The only way Sidious could win is if it was a small, tight, hallway, filled with 100 ARC's or other very favorable conditions.

I say he pulls his freaky old man trump card and wins... as the clones die from terror. 😐

"POWER, UNLIMITED POW!-"

*Sidious drops down to the floor, minus his torso, legs, arms and head*

Depends on the terrain. If Sidious is surrounded, no way will he live. If they start a few hundred feet away and there is things to hide behind, I think Sidious could take this. All he has to do it force lightning a dozen or so clones at a time from behind his cover area. That, or he could mind control a bunch of them into fighting eachother and eliminate most of them that way. Reason being is clone minds are much easier to mind control then regular ones because of how similar they are. I mean, if he can control the Senate; which consists of different species that are harder to influence), controlling fifty clone minds should be easy.

True. You brought factors into the fight that I didn't think about, but it is still likely that he dies under the heavy fire that these one hundred soldiers will provide. He will take several down with him, though.

Reason being is clone minds are much easier to mind control then regular ones because of how similar they are.

Yes, but these are ARC Troopers, their just as intelligent as Jango himself, and I doubt Jango is a weak minded being.
So... how does a standard ARC trooper measure up to a 501st?

I remember reading somewhere, Insider, I think, that what a hundred regular Clone Trooeprs can do 4 commando's or one ARC can do. So while, obviously, a single ARC couldn't go up against an army like a hundred regular Clones could one do as much damage as 100 Clones like in the Microseries when they took out the main gun that was firing on the Republic Forces.

So I think unless Sidious has tons of cover he gets pwnd. Seriosuly, Alpha seemed to be on par with Anakin a couple months after AOTC and while he is one of the stronger ARC troopers the other ones must be about as strong as AOTC Anakin, perhaps slightly weaker, but close to him. So imagine 90 AOTC Anakin's against Sidious. And if ROTS Anakin is really twice as powerful as AOTC Anakin like he says he is then this is like 40 ROTS Anakin's against Sidious. Like I said in the Yoda, Sidious and Maul vs. 250 ARC's thread this might not be the best way of looking at the battle but I'm juust trying to let everyone realise how strong ARC's really are. Nearly as strong as Jango is.

Alpha better than AOTC Anakin???

For sure. They seemed to be on par during the battle of Ohma-D'un, which takes place a few months after AOTC.

Sacrifice say a hundred Clones in keeping Palp's busy, the rest scuttle away as they're heaving grenades, rockets and blasterfire.

Originally posted by darthsith19
For sure. They seemed to be on par during the battle of Ohma-D'un, which takes place a few months after AOTC.

Is that your opinion, or does it actually say he is on par with him or anything like it? Cause Anakin could slap him around with the force, pull away his gun, and parry every single shot he shoots, and push away every grenade he launches...

A Jedi on par with an ARC?!??! Unless this is Coleman Trebor, I doubt it. And this is Anakin, he's definately better.

Originally posted by kamikz
Is that your opinion, or does it actually say he is on par with him or anything like it? Cause Anakin could slap him around with the force, pull away his gun, and parry every single shot he shoots, and push away every grenade he launches...

Have you read the comic? He fights just as well, if not better, against Durge as Anakin does.

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
A Jedi on par with an ARC?!??! Unless this is Coleman Trebor, I doubt it. And this is Anakin, he's definately better.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That'd be like if in a thread between Rogue Planet Anakin and Alpha I said "An ARC vs. a Jedi! Definately the Jedi especially cause it's Anakin!" I'm sure there are Jedi Knights and Masters that ARC's could beat in combat, let alone Padawans, I'm sure kamikz will agree with this.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That'd be like if in a thread between Rogue Planet Anakin and Alpha I said "An ARC vs. a Jedi! Definately the Jedi especially cause it's Anakin!" I'm sure there are Jedi Knights and Masters that ARC's could beat in combat, let alone Padawans, I'm sure kamikz will agree with this.

Jedi have training with their lightsaber for many more years than ARCs. They have experience deflecting shots since a very young. Yes, there are ARC's that can beat certain Jedi Knights and Masters (Coleman Trebor). And I wasnt saying all Jedi can beat an ARC, I was saying that a good deal of them can.

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
A Jedi on par with an ARC?!??! Unless this is Coleman Trebor, I doubt it.

I will hear no more negative insinuations about Coleman Trebor! chair

Arc troopers are really good, and sidius is that to, but 100 clones is like 10000 shoots per sec, he cant defend that

Eh...no, Sidious dies.

Jedi have training with their lightsaber for many more years than ARCs.

Yeah, your right. Yoda has far more training than Sidious does but Sidious beat Yoda. Cin Drallig has more training than ROTS Anakin but Anakin beat him. Ki-Adi Munid and the other Jedi on Hypori had more training than grievous did but they lost. So your point is moot.
They have experience deflecting shots since a very young.

Just so you know, ARC troopers have more than just blasters. ARC troopers were commonly armed with the Westar-M5 heavy repeating blaster, ARC trooper assault rifle, DC-17 hand blasters, and fragmentation and reverse-polarity pulse grenades. When heavy firepower was needed they were equipped with reciprocating quad blasters, PLX-1 missile launchers, or Z-6 rotary blaster cannons. Jedi arn't just going to be able to easily deflect fire from those weapons. I can easily see an ARC trooper being stronger than most Jedi Knights, look at what they did on Muunilist, I doubt most of the Jedi who died in the arena on Geonosis are that good. And I'd put AOTC Anakin about on par with the avg. Knight, so I think an ARC is about on par with him if not better. And some ARC's, like Fordo and Alpha, are definately stronger.