dooku vs kyp durron

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
by NJO Kyp surpasses ROTS Sidious. At one point Luke thought Kyp possessed more force potential than even himself.

In NJO Kyp gets attacked by four Slayers and gets beaten and captured, in the last book in fact. (When he was at his strongest.)

Given, Slayers are formidable, but Dark Lord Sidious would have WTF Pwned them and raped them at the same time.
The Slayers woulden't have stood a chance.

Yet Kyp gets beat up and captured by them.

I think Kyp at that time was no where near even Anakin's power.
(Episode 3)

Sidious wins this one, easily.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Kyp wins all of them. Kyp is the second strongest Jedi in the NJO (with Luke being the strongest). Since most of the people here think that Kyle Katarn, who is weaker than Kyp Durron, can beat Sidious then, logically, Kyp can too and Sidious > Dooku. Like kamikz said, I don't think that Kyp was a great dueler for someone of his calibur, but I'm assuming that he could still take Dooku in a pure saber fight.

Lol, forgot for a second that this was Dooku vs Duron and not Sidious.
Sorry. ^_^'

Anyway, I think Dooku would just barely(at least) beat him.
Kyp was horrible with a lightsaber, and his Force abilities at this point are at least equal to Dooku's.

Dooku wins.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
In NJO Kyp gets attacked by four Slayers and gets beaten and captured, in the last book in fact. (When he was at his strongest.)

Given, Slayers are formidable, but Dark Lord Sidious would have WTF Pwned them and raped them at the same time.
The Slayers woulden't have stood a chance.

Yet Kyp gets beat up and captured by them.

I think Kyp at that time was no where near even Anakin's power.
(Episode 3)

Sidious would wtf pwn them? How? He magically knows about the Vong and how to defeat them? Please. And no Starbuck, Kyp Durron by NJO has already surpassed ROTS Anakin.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Sidious would wtf pwn them? How? He magically knows about the Vong and how to defeat them? Please. And no Starbuck, Kyp Durron by NJO has already surpassed ROTS Anakin.

Lol...how do I answer this one.

Sidious woulden't have to know about the YV.

Its like Bruce Lee walking into this alley where these four really tough thugs use MMA moves and normally attack their opponant all at once.

Bruce Lee woulden't need to know about who they were or what they used - He'd kick their asses anyway, easily.

Its about like that with Sidious.

He might not be able to pick them up with the Force, but as soon as the four slayers attacked him, he'd be ripping trees out of the ground and crushing them to death. Then the ones that survived that would take him on with their amphistaffs and he'd totally out-technique them and kill them in seconds with his lightsaber.

So, uh, how would he lose?

And Kyp was a horrible lightsaber duelist, if you need proof of this, remind yourself of his fight with those Slayers.
Anakin would rape the hell out of them in a duel. Sure, they might do alright, but they'd still die.

And Kyp durron by NJO is still a half-assed Jedi Master that can hardly use any skill with a saber and has strong, but unimpressive Force capabilities.

Please, Anakin would break him down in a minuite.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Lol...how do I answer this one.

Sidious woulden't have to know about the YV.

Its like Bruce Lee walking into this alley where these four really tough thugs use MMA moves and normally attack their opponant all at once.

Bruce Lee woulden't need to know about who they were or what they used - He'd kick their asses anyway, easily.

Its about like that with Sidious.

He might not be able to pick them up with the Force, but as soon as the four slayers attacked him, he'd be ripping trees out of the ground and crushing them to death. Then the ones that survived that would take him on with their amphistaffs and he'd totally out-technique them and kill them in seconds with his lightsaber.

So, uh, how would he lose?

And Kyp was a horrible lightsaber duelist, if you need proof of this, remind yourself of his fight with those Slayers.
Anakin would rape the hell out of them in a duel. Sure, they might do alright, but they'd still die.

And Kyp durron by NJO is still a half-assed Jedi Master that can hardly use any skill with a saber and has strong, but unimpressive Force capabilities.

Kyp Durron can pawn Dooku and can comfortable slay Dooku and Ani combined. What the hell are you talking about? Kyp's the 2nd most powerful Jedi to only Mr. Luke Skywalker himself.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Uh, except for the fact that they're on a different level of the force meaning Sidious couldn't use it, and their armor is strong enough to regenerate after a lightsaber hit, so that's pretty much out.

ripping trees out of the ground? Crushing them to death? Is this before or after they gang up and slaughter him?

Anakin would rape the slayers? I'm glad your argument is purely speculation and retarded opinion. Kyp not being able to defeat the slayers speaks less for his saber skills and more for the Vong. Anakin would get slaughtered if he were in the position.

Actually Kyp is second to only Luke, and replicated a lot of Luke's feats on a smaller scale. His force powers far surpass Anakin's.

LOL, you write this stuff and you call "me" retarded?

First off, being on a different level of the Force means jack. Sidious would still be able to use his Force (Duh) and it woulden't matter about their armour, know why?
If a lightsaber blow is powerful enough and has enough energy put into it, it will tear through Vong armour, Luke has done this before.
Anyway, even if he dosen't know about this at first, he'll start to ward off their attacks with expertise until he does the above.

Second, You mean to tell me that a bunch of suped-up Yuuzahn Vong are going to gang up on the Dark Lord of the Sith?
They won't win. Lol.
Oh, and, its right after they ARE crushed to death by the trees, you dumb@$$.

Third. Yeah retard, Anakin would rape the Slayers. Their just YV.
I mean, he went through the main Jedi Temple, killing groupings of Padawan's, formidible Knights and even Masters, (like the Battlemaster of the Temple)
Oh yeah, he also killed a Sith Lord and ex-Jedi Master of the highest caliber, and THE master of Makashi.
Im really glad your the only retard here, which is why you made that mongoloid-esqe statement up there.
Anakin would expertly beat the living crap out of those Slayers.
He's the Chosen One of the Force, and the best Jedi Knight in the Order at the time of its fall.
He WOULD rape them.
BTW, you should take a second and remember how he fights, he moves like a blur and even out-techniqes his opponants. How a Slayer let alone four could stand up to that is laughable.

Now, later on, like is Swarm War, Kyp is second to Luke, but at the end of NJO, which is what we're talking about, Anakin's Force ability is still slightly better than Kyp's.

He's the Chosen One of the Force, and the best Jedi Knight in the Order at the time of its fall.

OMFG, Anakin the Chosen One can beat Yoda!!! WTF, that's bullshit reasoning.

BTW, you should take a second and remember how he fights, he moves like a blur and even out-techniqes his opponants. How a Slayer let alone four could stand up to that is laughable.

Whoa, Hayden Christensen is a good swordfighter.

Now, later on, like is Swarm War, Kyp is second to Luke, but at the end of NJO, which is what we're talking about, Anakin's Force ability is still slightly better than Kyp's

What the hell are you talking about? All I see from Ani is a Force Choke, Crush, Push, and Pull.

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
OMFG, Anakin the Chosen One can beat Yoda!!! WTF, that's bullshit reasoning.

Yeah, he could have, had he reached his full potential.
Plus he has more of a grasp on the Force than any Jedi does. Some of that grasp was just dormant.
This still allows him to beat the crap out of the Slayers, of course.

Whoa, Hayden Christensen is a good swordfighter.

Duh, so is Anakin Skywalker. Nice attempt at discrediting.

What the hell are you talking about? All I see from Ani is a Force Choke, Crush, Push, and Pull.

Still better than what Kyp's done at the end of NJO.

Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
LOL, you write this stuff and you call "me" retarded?

First off, being on a different level of the Force means jack. Sidious would still be able to use his Force (Duh) and it woulden't matter about their armour, know why?
If a lightsaber blow is powerful enough and has enough energy put into it, it will tear through Vong armour, Luke has done this before.
Anyway, even if he dosen't know about this at first, he'll start to ward off their attacks with expertise until he does the above.

Second, You mean to tell me that a bunch of suped-up Yuuzahn Vong are going to gang up on the Dark Lord of the Sith?
They won't win. Lol.
Oh, and, its right after they ARE crushed to death by the trees, you dumb@$$.

Third. Yeah retard, Anakin would rape the Slayers. Their just YV.
I mean, he went through the main Jedi Temple, killing groupings of Padawan's, formidible Knights and even Masters, (like the Battlemaster of the Temple)
Oh yeah, he also killed a Sith Lord and ex-Jedi Master of the highest caliber, and THE master of Makashi.
Im really glad your the only retard here, which is why you made that mongoloid-esqe statement up there.
Anakin would expertly beat the living crap out of those Slayers.
He's the Chosen One of the Force, and the best Jedi Knight in the Order at the time of its fall.
He WOULD rape them.
BTW, you should take a second and remember how he fights, he moves like a blur and even out-techniqes his opponants. How a Slayer let alone four could stand up to that is laughable.

Lets forget that the Vong killed over 365 trillion people. conquered countless worlds, took over Coruscant, all the while the JEdi were powerless to stop them. You seem to completely fail to comprehend the simple fact that the Vong are not of the galaxy, and are on another level of the force. Now logic states that the Jedi wouldn't know how to fight against them, neither will the sith..

Now, later on, like is Swarm War, Kyp is second to Luke, but at the end of NJO, which is what we're talking about, Anakin's Force ability is still slightly better than Kyp's.

Kyp was second to Luke even when Exar Kun inhabited his body, he is superior to Anakin, get that through your skull.

Kyp also tossed around a dovin basal, which is like black hole. I'd like to see Anakin, Sidious or even Yoda toss around something of (near) infinite density.

I'm quite sure all of three are better duelists, but Kyp has some insane force powers.

@Darth Sexy

Jacen has surpassed Kyp by far. Unless you meant by the NJO, but even then it's debateable.

Has he? I never read Betrayal, but I never got that impression from what people have said.

Originally posted by Generic Hero
Kyp also tossed around a dovin basal, which is like black hole. I'd like to see Anakin, Sidious or even Yoda toss around something of (near) infinite density.

I'm quite sure all of three are better duelists, but Kyp has some insane force powers.

@Darth Sexy

Jacen has surpassed Kyp by far. Unless you meant by the NJO, but even then it's debateable.

Yea I meant NJO, I'm sure Jacen surpassed him afterwards.

Originally posted by Generic Hero
Kyp also tossed around a dovin basal, which is like black hole. I'd like to see Anakin, Sidious or even Yoda toss around something of (near) infinite density.

I'm quite sure all of three are better duelists, but Kyp has some insane force powers.

@Darth Sexy

Jacen has surpassed Kyp by far. Unless you meant by the NJO, but even then it's debateable.

which anakin? ROTS anakin nope and yoda can because he said "size matters not, the only difference is in your mind"
and if u talk about anakin at his peak he can do anything

"Canonically, Anakin Skywalker had the most Force potential of any individual who ever lived; it is also a canon fact that Luke Skywalker possesses the same force potential as that of Anakin Skywalker, as stated by George Lucas. Luke Skywalker represents the full power of Anakin Skywalker, had he ever lived to achieve his true potential. In addition, Jacen Solo himself has been the latest in-universe character to state that that his former master is currently the most powerful Jedi in the Order. It is essential to remember, however, that raw potential does not necessarily correlate into actual ability."

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
"Canonically, Anakin Skywalker had the most Force potential of any individual who ever lived; it is also a canon fact that Luke Skywalker possesses the same force potential as that of Anakin Skywalker, as stated by George Lucas. Luke Skywalker represents the full power of Anakin Skywalker, had he ever lived to achieve his true potential. In addition, Jacen Solo himself has been the latest in-universe character to state that that his former master is currently the most powerful Jedi in the Order. It is essential to remember, however, that raw potential does not necessarily correlate into actual ability."

i would like to see the exact quote where lucas said luke = anakin
and im not talking about raw power, what use is lots of power when you dont know how to use it? thats a good point

and lukes powers are mostly lightside powers like shield, remove from force, green lightning,

full anakin skywalker would be the same if so but his powers would be dark side which are far more destructive

i think that is why GL said anakin would the be strongest. because luke at NJO i see him more defensive than offensive, and anakin is mostly on offense

George Lucas Rolling Stones interview

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
George Lucas Rolling Stones interview

Oh so specific! Uh, date and issue of article. Exact quote, or preferrably just a scan. I thought it was said it was in Vanity Fair, but whatever. If you know where it was said, you should have the article, correct?