What does this mean to you?

Started by ThePittman16 pages

Originally posted by debbiejo
Me?
No mister yelling there. 🙂

I am posting in large font because it seems that it is impossible for people to understand anything unless it is in large font.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Well I’m not about to go through and read through your thread and or hunt it down. How about you post a link to your thread and the page that has your “best” explanation of it.

Or I could tell you to look it up if you were at all interested. However, I'll still find it for you: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t403573.html

Originally posted by FeceMan
I am posting in large font because it seems that it is impossible for people to understand anything unless it is in large font.

Acutally...it just makes you look like you're 5.

Originally posted by Alliance
Acutally...it just makes you look like you're 5.

Coincidentally, that is the size of the font you are reading.

Coincidence, huh.

Originally posted by FeceMan
For people arguing against the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, I see time and time again one issue brought up:

A loving God would not send anyone to hell.

However, in the Christian religion, God is shown to be a merciful, ever-patient, forgiving God. [Not in some parts of the Old Testament, heh.] In describing this quality, I have pointed out that Hitler, though hideously evil, could very well be in heaven.

Then the same people who say that a loving God would not send anyone to hell get bent out of shape over this.

This, clearly, is a contradiction of the arguments against God's existence. To have a God who sends people to hell is proof against God, but having a God who forgives without a second thought is also against God. So, there cannot be judgment but there must be judgment. No punishment but punishment indeed.

Impossible.

When saying that God clearly isn't benevolent because of His sending people to hell, one must take into account several things of the Christian faith.

1. God is giving these people exactly what they want--a life without Him.

2. God sent His son--who is part of him--to die a long, agonizing death in order to rescue every single person, past and present, from hell.

3. In order to be saved from hell, all one must do is ask for rescue.

Now, looking at these three things, one must ask oneself:

Is it unloving to give people what they want?
Is it unloving to sacrifice one's son for the greater good?
Is it unloving to promise eternal salvation in exchange for a few words spoken?

Tell me, in what way is it unloving to forgive the sins of a man such as Hitler and grant him entrance to paradise--one who surely, by our accounts, deserves great punishment?

In the end, one must either come to the conclusion that God is either good or bad. Is He bad because He sends people to hell, or is He good for promising (and delivering) eternal salvation to the most wretched of us all? Is He bad because others have made the choice to deny His sacrifice, or is He good because His sacrifice, while so terrible and great, is granted to us in exchange for nothing?

God is either good or bad. He is not some neutral deity. Take your stance and stick with it. Do not proclaim some of God's actions as bad when they are clearly signs of a good God.

So, tell me--is He evil for damnation or is He good for salvation?

You must be a politician, there is so much double talk in this it’s laughable. I have had better answers from the religious fanatics that I’ve talked to on the street.

Originally posted by ThePittman
You must be a politician, there is so much double talk in this it’s laughable. I have had better answers from the religious fanatics that I’ve talked to on the street.

An amazing rebuttal on your behalf.

P.S. The font you are now reading is size 6.

DONT INSULT POLITICIANS 😠

Originally posted by FeceMan
An amazing rebuttal on your behalf.

P.S. The font you are now reading is size 6.

My god, he grew up a year...oh wait...hes still 12.

Originally posted by Alliance
DONT INSULT POLITICIANS 😠
😆 my bad 😛

👆

Originally posted by FeceMan
An amazing rebuttal on your behalf.

P.S. The font you are now reading is size 6.

Thank you I know it was 😛

If God is all knowing, all seeing and all powerful then he all ready knows what has happened, is and all that will happen so that means he will already know if you will believe in him or not even before you are born.

NOOOOOO!!!!111 Because God gave us free WIIIIIILLLLLLLLL. Because he wants up to CHOOOOOSEEEEE for ourselves...

Yes, He does. He has given us the opportunity to ask for forgiveness--whether we take it or not is our choice.

No. Ulitmatums NEVER coincide with free will.

Originally posted by Alliance
No. Ulitmatums NEVER coincide with free will.

Uh...yeah, they do?

no...they don't. People will do anything under a gun.

OK, so we have “free will” and he doesn’t “make” our choices but he already knows what choice we will make because he is all knowing and all seeing.

Therfore....we do not have free will.

Originally posted by Alliance
Therfore....we do not have free will.
✅ That means he made that person knowing that they will be condemned.