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I think Uncle Cliff Laced it with acid👀 .....I agree Posting up isn't Prince's biggest strength, i was just pointing that he has the ability to do it even if he is playing someone who appears to be stronger than him, samething goes with size, look at Barkley, he can post up anyone and he is only 6'4......The Dallas/Mavs game was pretty entertaining, I thought the refs called a horrible game, but the one thing they did do right was call a horrible game both ways, Ginobli showed up, and I love watching him play when he goes balls to the wall, even if you don't like him, still gotta admire the tenacity......Lebron took a page from Kobe's book from the Phoenix series and it paid off, but Detriot didn't play Detriot like at all that game, I hate it when they don't show up, thats how they lost to the spurs last year (imo), and what is with them in game 3's, they're like 3-12 in them, or something ridoculous like that

ah 99. my bad man.

yeha was terrible watching sheed reaching for that and seeing that elliot was so close to being out of bounds... almost the blazers year. hopefully it wont take long for them to get to that stage again. can anyone see the cavs taking a second win? i'm not so sure.

Originally posted by Myth
Wow. That Portland team you just described was about a decade off from when Dunleavy coached the Blazers (and they lost to teams such as the Pistons and the Bulls in the Finals during those days). Rick Adelman coached those guys (and for your information Duckworth was a 2-time all-star 😉 ).

Wow! I was that far off? Still one of my favorite teams tho. Remember them loosing to the bulls. Especially the game where Jordan went off from the 3 pt line just to prove to everyone that he had the range.

I also remember them losing to the Lakers in a conference final, that game was made famous by Magic's throwing of the basketball down the court and telling everyone not to touch it so the final seconds of the game would run off the clock.

I also remember a game against Bird's Celtics which went into triple overtime. Like I said this team was involved in a lot of great games.

Yeah that's true he was but his career numbers really didn't justify that. He averaged 12 pts for his career. The reason why he made in as an all star was because as is always the case the all star team is chosen by position. We all know the center position is not selected from a very talented pool of players. I remember when just recently Ilgauskus was chosen as an all-star because of his position and many people didn't agree with that and felt he didn't deserve it. Hell, I remember when Mark Eaton, Bill Cartwright, Manute Bol, George Muresan and Greg Ostertag were selected as all stars, does that necessarily mean that they were All-Star caliber players?

[i] Dunleavy coached the Blazers to two Conference finals where they lost to the champs (took the 2000 Lakers to game 7 and only lost in the last 2 minutes). He won the Coach of the Year award in 1999 and came in 3rd for this years voting. I don't think it would be very fair to call him a bad coach. His credentials are certainly no worse than his opposing coach, Mike D'Antoni's. [/B]

I still think he'd be better suited as an assistant coach and I feel the same way about Adelman btw. These guys have had their chances, they've had talented teams before and were never able to bring that championship in the end, it's time to step down and allow someone else a chance. It reminds me of the Nelson and Avery situation in Dallas, this could still be Donnie's team trying to win a championship but Donnie realized it was time to step down and give Avery a shot and look at how good that teams doin now?

As far as D'antoni, at least he knows how to play to his team's strengths. Run and gun, full speed ahead, it's as simple as that.

Wait, hold up...Greg Ostertag was an all star? Is this true?

Go Heat! Wade was great again, 31 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds.

I'm glad the Mavs won. Hopefully they knock off the Spurs. Hopefully the Cavs can make their series a good series too.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Wait, hold up...Greg Ostertag was an all star? Is this true?

No he wasn't.

As for Duckworth only making it because there wasn't many talented centers, well, then at least he was one of the best in the league which is good enough.

And I wouldn't necessarily say none of those guys mentioned deserved all-star appearances:
Duckworth: 1989 and 1991 all-star: He was on one of the best teams both years while averaging 21.5 and 9.5 in 1989 which isn't too shabby (20.4 and 8.5 in 91).
Muresan - Was never an all-star.
Bol - Also was never an all-star.
Cartwright - Was only an all-star in 1980 when he averaged 21.7 and 8.9 off 54.7% FG.
Eaton - Didn't score much, but in 89 when he made the team, he avged 10.3 rebs and 3.8 blks (if anything, he may not have deserved an all-star appearance but that is pretty solid).

Plus Duckworth invented the "Duck-hook", that has to count for something. 🙂

and he wore those goggles that said "lookout b!tches, here comes duckworth!!" 🪩 ........I don;t see Cleveland winning another game, I called them to lose in 5, and i'm pretty confident that prediction is gonna hold up, plus we gotta guarnsheed, love sheed, not sure if anyway heard what he said, but he was saying how there are only two teams that detriot can't make mistakes on and cleveland ain't one of them, Detriot is gonna get back to playing there style to end this series.....Enjoyed the Heat game, Wade was awesome, since Game 1 he has stepped up completely and dictated the offesense and no net has had success shutting him down, and he stepped up his defense pickpocketed both Carter and Jefferson for easy deuces last game, plus all the dipshit miami role players finally showed, but the Nets didn't help there cause, they played horrible in transition, they have two of the most athletetic fowards in the league, and they were settling for jumpers in transition, but I do think the Nets are gonna steal another one in Miami, and the Heat will finnish them back in NJ, could be wrong tho... but yea that New Jersey Nets Eastern Conference Final prediction isn't looking too good right now

Originally posted by wuTa
and he wore those goggles that said "lookout b!tches, here comes duckworth!!" 🪩

😆 I think you might be talking about Buck Williams there dude.

Kevin Duckworth

Buck Williams

I saw Duckworth a couple of years ago at the Portland Airport and he had gained about 100 pounds since retirement. He had to of been about 7' 450lbs. One of the biggest guys I have ever seen.

I also forgot that Dunleavy led the Lakers to the NBA finals in 1991.

Oh, I also forgot All-Star Herb Williams 😉

Where the f*ck are you getting your info? He was never an all-star either.

Originally posted by koolruningz
😆 I think you might be talking about Buck Williams there dude.

Kevin Duckworth

Buck Williams

damn, you're right...you'd think after like 15 years i could tell the two apart...."lookout b!tches, here comes bucky!!"🪩

Another accomplishment of Duckworth is he won Most Improved Player in the NBA in 88, so besides two all-stars, he had that going for him, and just a correction for Myth but Duck never averaged 20 points or higher a game, his best year was 89 with 18.1 ppg, 8rpg (still all-star caliber tho) 1990-16.2, 6.2rpg...1991-15.8, 6.6rpg

Originally posted by wuTa
and he wore those goggles that said "lookout b!tches, here comes duckworth!!" 🪩 ........I don;t see Cleveland winning another game, I called them to lose in 5, and i'm pretty confident that prediction is gonna hold up, plus we gotta guarnsheed, love sheed, not sure if anyway heard what he said, but he was saying how there are only two teams that detriot can't make mistakes on and cleveland ain't one of them, Detriot is gonna get back to playing there style to end this series.....Enjoyed the Heat game, Wade was awesome, since Game 1 he has stepped up completely and dictated the offesense and no net has had success shutting him down, and he stepped up his defense pickpocketed both Carter and Jefferson for easy deuces last game, plus all the dipshit miami role players finally showed, but the Nets didn't help there cause, they played horrible in transition, they have two of the most athletetic fowards in the league, and they were settling for jumpers in transition, but I do think the Nets are gonna steal another one in Miami, and the Heat will finnish them back in NJ, could be wrong tho... but yea that New Jersey Nets Eastern Conference Final prediction isn't looking too good right now

if not for antoine walker having a great game the nets would have won. if not for udonis haslem having a great game the nets would have won. it may have possibly been a blowout nets win if those two had an off night in game 4. unfortunately, miami's role players did not miss froim the floor. the most shocking part of game 4 for me was...when the nets were down by 1 point in the middle of the fourth..the nets were on a run...momentum was going their way....vince gets fouled and gets to the free throw line....AND MISSES TWO FREE THROWS!!! and that was as close as the nets would get in game 4. those two free throws would have completely changed the outcome of the game. vince never misses free throws down the stretch..especially in close games. WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM!!??

This may be hard for you to hear tanjot but Vince is actually human and can make mistakes just like us. It happens to the best of them.
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Wow, the Pistons really seem to have taken their foot off the gas. They really should have swept the Cavs by now but it seems like they started believing it was already in the bag. They did the same thing last year and just thought they could just turn it on when they needed it, they are too good of a team to play like that. Not only has it given the Cavs confidence but their next opponents will not be as fearful after they have given away their lead like this.
Perhaps im not giving the Cavs enough credit but im pretty sure when you consider all the factors this series should be over by now, LeBron or not.

Wow, nobody knows how pissed i am right now 😠

Couple things to get off my chest, LeBron 3 pointer at halftime should never have counted, he was out of bounds when he shot it, Ben was clearly fouled with 8 second left, should have been sent to the free throw line 8 seconds left instead of that jumpball, and on that possesion, Cleveland clearly touch the ball last, Detroit shoul've had last possesion, all that aside, Clevelands role players came through just like Miami's and got the job done....Detroit really needs to start playing some ****ing basketball, chauncey, mcdysse, and rasheed have all been playing like shit the past two games.....Chaunce decision has been horrible, he shoots when he should pass, and passes when he should shoot, Mcdysse is m.i.a, Rasheed wasn't even a factor this game with his injury, but even in game 3 he played like shit, he can easily post up igudickface but instead settles for jumpshots.....Although I do believe this loss could be the best thing that happen to the Pistons because now they know they have to step up, they either wakeup and play some ****in detriot basketball or go home

Originally posted by wuTa

Another accomplishment of Duckworth is he won Most Improved Player in the NBA in 88, so besides two all-stars, he had that going for him, and just a correction for Myth but Duck never averaged 20 points or higher a game, his best year was 89 with 18.1 ppg, 8rpg (still all-star caliber tho) 1990-16.2, 6.2rpg...1991-15.8, 6.6rpg

My bad. I accidentally looked at the per 40 minutes on this site:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duckwke01.html

But as you said, still all-star caliber.

I've been waiting for Wallace to have a guarantee go unsatisfied. Great that when somebody broke his perfect prediction record, it is LeBron.

even tho he almost recorded a triple double, Lebron played medocre for his standards, only 2-12 in the 4th and like 5 points in the 2nd half(or was it only 5 pts in 4th qt?), detroit did there job and contained him, the problem was clevelands role players came through and detroits biggest problem was themselves, looked like shit offensely, detroit's greatest oppenent is themselves, they find ways to lose games by not forfilling there potential...anyways my main point was lebron shouldn't get too much credit for that win, his teamates bailed him out from his shitty free throw shooting

Yeah, it was a team effort. I'm just happy to have the Cavs win. For the record though, LeBron scored or assisted on the Cavs final nine points and that has to count for something. But yeah, it definitely wasn't just him.

Btw, when do they announce All-NBA teams? Anybody know?