Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
Its all been talked abotu before read over the thread.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
So heres what im failing to understand, and at this point in convinced you are jokeing, or just, i duno.BECAUSE nightwing cannot beat Cyclops in a straight up fight, its unfair? Why?
Basicly what your telling me is everytime nightwing goes toe to toe with someone and comes out victorious it was because either A-they had been crippled by a stealth attack in an RPG fashion or B-he was extrodinarily lucky?
Get real. To say that nightwing cant win this fight without getting the ADVANTAGE ([b]IE PRE EMPTIVE STRIKE VIA STEALTH MANUVER
) Completely underminds Nightwings acrobatics, fighting prowress and gadetry. Regardless, the rules of this thread state this is a straight up fight between the two. So if you dont like it, what you should actually be doing is makeing the fight "fair", although im still baffled as to how stripping a pre-emptive attack from nightwing is "unfair"Is the matchup "difficult" for nightwing? Sure. Unfair? Not really. These are comic book characters. All characters are not created equally. In that case, DC shuold have all heros with Supermans Powerset, and Marvel should have all characters with Wolverines powerset. Thats fair. [/B]
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Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.
[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
meh it amuses me.
are we playing telephone? why dont we all start adding stuff to it 🙂, ill start!
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
meh it amuses me.
meh, it arouses me
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
Like I said theres really nothing new to say. And you guys keep this goign as much as I do.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
Not a one on one fight, we talked asbou this already as well. you guys need new material.
The best thing to do is ignore people who ramble on and go off topic. If people want to complain about the circumstances of the battle, let them. Some people just like to quote themselves and post the same thing on end. These people will spam up a thread until is gets closed. If we don't respond to them they'll have no reason to keep posting their flummery.
Cyclops 7/10
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
True my qoute is the same but what I post is different.
Like Ive said I agree this shoudl be closed, we've argued that every possible way to death.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
Cyclops had the x-mens help, it wasnt a one on one fight therefore not applicable. been over this already.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
I believe that mathc ended in a draw, Stil it had a load of outside players and factors sorry nice try.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
i ment the overall battle. it ended in a draw, but as i said it wasnt a one on one battle therefore not applicable.
You want a one-on-one battle, Gambit fought and beat Nightwing and then stole the Batmobile. Yeah, Marvel is all about having their mutants get beat by DC.
You might want to actually do some reading before trying to comment on what Marvel would allow in a crossover.
Edit: I mean you just admited that they had the X-men stalemate the JLA.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.
We've been over all this before.
No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.
Again we have been over all of this before.
prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.
Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?
yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.
We;ve been over this already too,
anything new that hasnt been argued to death?
that pic has already been argued as well.
This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.
Gambit is a different story. hes a trained theif and assassin he knows when someone is sneaking up on him.
Gambit would beat NW in a realistic Battle, cyclops wouldn't
Originally posted by David_RichardsYou do realise that reposting things irrelevant to this thread over and over A) doesn't mean people care enough about the irrelevant things you have to say to read them again if they've even read them once B) constitutes spam and is essentially whitespace and C) doesn't change the stipulations (or lack thereof) of this thread set by the threadstarter under which Cyclops wins.