Cyclops vs. Nightwing

Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

Except the only one doing that is you in regards to Cyclops

Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

Nobody is taking away his stealth, he is free to use it as soon as the fight starts, as for prep, it is being taken from both of them.

Originally posted by David_Richards
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.

Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?

In that case, it was taken away from both so there was nothing unfair about it.

Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.

Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?

yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.

We;ve been over this already too,

anything new that hasnt been argued to death?

As much as we love Dick Grayson, this is a spite thread.

It doesn't have to be a major part, he has been known to do it and for this thread we are saying he can't, just like Nightwing, IOW there is nothing 'unfair' about this thread.

Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.

Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?

yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.

We;ve been over this already too,

anything new that hasnt been argued to death?

yes is does its prolly the most crucial part of his training.

THis has been disscussed already, anything new we havet argued to death?

So Nightwing can't beat anyone at all without stealth?

Originally posted by David_Richards
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

your just saying the same thing a different way. Could Cyclops beat him wihtout the optic blasts?

we talked about this come up with somehting new.

I take your dodge to mean that, No, Nightwing cannot beat anyone without stealth.

Feel free to correct me by actually answering my question.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't think you get it, Nightwing is ninja[QUOTE=7310598]Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[B]I don't think you get it, Nightwing is ninja[QUOTE=7310598]Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[B]I don't think you get it, Nightwing is ninja

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't think you get it, Nightwing is ninja

Originally posted by David_Richards
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

and the petualant child weighs in.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Moi? I'm easy like a Sunday morning. Though others are much quicker to temper.[QUOTE=7310696]Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Moi? I'm easy like a Sunday morning. Though others are much quicker to temper.[QUOTE=7310696]Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Moi? I'm easy like a Sunday morning. Though others are much quicker to temper.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Nightwing is ninja.

An American ninja.

scott ftw

Originally posted by Silent Master
An American ninja.

Public service announcement on behalf of Val.

Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.

[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.

If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.

the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.

You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.

I want one that does the same for Nightwing.

The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.

its a bad match up. lol

If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.

And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.

And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.

Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.

And I think making someone fight in a way they never normally would and takign away ceritan skills is unfair.

We've been over all this before.

No your doign the same thing to NW, taking away his training in stealth training and how he fights.

Again we have been over all of this before.

prep is part of the stealth, do you not understand what the word Stealth refferers to? It means going in undetected and not giving away that hes there.

Again weve been over this, is there nothing new to bring up?

yes but stealth isnt a major part of how cyclops fights but for NW it is.

We;ve been over this already too,

anything new that hasnt been argued to death?

No X I just call you a petulant child not out of anger but simply to state a fact since you are just postiing to try and make me angry like Digimark said you were.

This thread has been argued to death and its just going in circles so ive asked Tron to shut it down when he has a chance.