Can Satan be Forgiven?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Satan should be able to be forgiven if he asks forgiveness according to all gods creations (people) asking, but Satan might be considered different because he was never human but an angel. Never the less, angels have free will just as humans and IMO be forgiven for transgressions.

"Whereas angels, though greater in might and power, bring not a railing judgment against them before the Lord."
II Peter 2:11

* we all know that good triumphs over evil... always... even Satan himself knows this... but even Satan is deceived by himself to think that he can win over God, that's why up until now and up to the end, he will always rebel against God and will not ask for God's forgiveness...

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Bible says there is NO sin that cannot be forgiven.

* according to the Bible, there are sins that will not be forgiven... 😉

Originally posted by Alliance
Well, if "God" is all powerful and all knowing... that means he was responsible for satan, which means that he will clearly not "forgive" Satan. Why? Because God wanted an opposing force (Satan would basically be a straw man argument) and God has Satan exactly where he want him.

* that's not like it at all, my friend... God created all good things... and God is not all-knowing... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* that's not like it at all, my friend... God created all good things... and God is not all-knowing... 😉

So God is not omniscient either ?

Christianity kinda botched up their religion. I've actually seen a Priest that believes all people will be forgiven, including Satan.

Also another thing, God is responsible for Satan's creation, he made Angels, which is what Lucifer(that spelling looks off) was. That means that God created Evil, in which case that makes him worse than Satan, he KNEW what would happen, he allowed it to happen, according to the Bible, God is all powerful, he could wipe Satan and his demons from existence if he wanted, yet he doesn't, Christianity is based on Fear to get into Paradise, as opposed to many others.

Can Satan be Forgiven? Yes. If necessary, i'll vouch for him 😱. God is merciful.

Originally posted by mattrab
According to christian theology, God is an all-loving God? So therefore can he forgive Satan, and can Satan still have a place in Heaven?

No.

Satan = a guy who f*cks his friend's wife.

You can pretty much kiss that friendship goodbye.

So we can interpret then that god is not all merciful?

Originally posted by Alliance
So we can interpret then that god is not all merciful?

People seem to think that by being perfect good traits can conflict. God is all merciful, but he is also just. He will do everything he can, but mercy cannot rob justice.

Sure I can be forgiven! Who said I can't?...whoops... er ... I mean... dunno.

Originally posted by Regret
People seem to think that by being perfect good traits can conflict. God is all merciful, but he is also just. He will do everything he can, but mercy cannot rob justice.

Originally posted by Regret
People seem to think that by being perfect good traits can conflict. God is all merciful, but he is also just. He will do everything he can, but mercy cannot rob justice.

I think the determinism robs him of any will. I don't believe in justice...humans have know idea how to balance out actions.

Originally posted by Alliance
I think the determinism robs him of any will. I don't believe in justice...humans have know idea how to balance out actions.

Humans do not, but if there is a God, he is capable of it. Determinism is a man made construct.

You don't know if he is capable. If god has absolute control...then he is loceked in his own words...we are then predestined to a specific fate.

I've not read this thread, I'm merely commenting on the title:
Can Satan be forgiven by God?

Well, to begin with, it depends largely on your interpretation of Satan....
I mean, is he "the Enemy" in a jurisprudencial sort-of-way as in the Hebrew scriptures, perhaps led astray, or is he the evil figure of the later Christian tradition?

There was a guy back in the very late antiquity called Origen who wrote a lot on theological matters and he argued that logically if Satan asked for forgiveness then it would be given. The Church of course didn't like this (or that he was saying God could have a physical form if he wanted.) He ended up being called a heretic (though the Church continued to use a lot of his more acceptable texts.)

Anyway, Satan isn't stupid. And besides, if I was Satan I would want to mess up God plan, and it seems that by asking for forgiveness would certainly do that. Pull the bottom card out of the whole salvation/damnation house of cards. And technically Satan isn't dead so...

But satan is trapped by gods will...

I donno 😬

I mean I can basicly forgive anyone as long as they are sorry for what they have done, heck I might even forgive Osama Bin Laden.

But, Satan is basicly the living embodyment of evil.

Originally posted by Grimm22
But, Satan is basicly the living embodyment of evil.

That's right, ey. Satan is screwed like an inmate with no possiblity of parole.

I would suggest you consider my post earlier, the long one. I responded to some of these statements.

Originally posted by Grimm22
I donno 😬

I mean I can basicly forgive anyone as long as they are sorry for what they have done, heck I might even forgive Osama Bin Laden.

But, Satan is basicly the living embodyment of evil.

No he's not. Evil is a force, not a person. He is also God's child. If he is truly evil incarnate, then God is imperfect, because he gave birth to this evil.

Evil is either a state of mind, a choice, or a behavior, but it is not a person....Satan just practices "evil" but he is not the force itself. Otherwise, what would that make God? The literal creator of evil, and a hypocrit.

If Satan is truly sorry, then yes God can forgive him, as it is God's law that he must forgive those who ask for it. However, if Satan is never sorry, then he will never beg for forgiveness, and it won't happen.

But the question itself is...CAN God do it ? Or is it beyond his ability?

So the question is, Can Satan be forgiven by God?

No, he can not. God is not all forgiving. God made a law (the 10 commandment) and anyone who brakes the law will pay in Hell. God will forgive anyone who asks for it, stops braking the law, and gives there life to him. Hell was made for Satan and he is going to try to take as many people as he can with him.

If you want to find out why I say God is not all forgiving and wont forgive Satan then go to this web site and listen to “The Meaning of The Cross”. All your questions about God forgiving Satan can be answered here. heartcrymissionary.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=39&Itemid=85

Pro 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.