Wonder Girl vs. Spider-Man (Classic)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She's great. But she isn't Spiderman. He's been in all kinds of cosmic conflicts, and fighting guys who can give thor a run for years. Cassie isn't so invulnerable that a good blow to the face won't knock her out. I'm going by her showings. Since I"m the DC fan. And I know she can get rash. and since she hasn't been shown using a sword,i'm not gonna go on what i think she can do. Especially since I don't even remember seeing herbeing trained with a sword.

Your the DC fan 😆

and I don't know anything about DC right.....

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so she can take a one hit from superboy prime and is still not knocked out.
http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00302jy.jpg
But one good punch from spidey will knock her out.
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Thanks for enlightening me

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Your the DC fan 😆

and I don't know anything about DC right.....

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so she can take a one hit from superboy prime and is still not knocked out.
http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00302jy.jpg
But one good punch from spidey will knock her out.
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Thanks for enlightening me

That's pis. Not even Superman took any punches from a full powered SBP. He was knocking people's heads off by mistake. He sent black adam in orbit with a punch. Cassie is just too good of a character to let be killed. that is the only reason her head is still on her shoulders.

Nice!

spierman's dodged speed demon many times before as for the superman robots spidy beat a robot created by the mad thinker that beat both the ff and the avengers

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
The webbing's been broken several times before, but it depends how much he uses and how fast it dries. It's held those such as The Wrecker, The Blob, Mr. Hyde, and The Rhino before. The Thing, She-Hulk, Thunderbolt w/ full Norn power, etc. had trouble breaking it. Namor once stated he can't break it.

What evidence do you have of this speed other than flight or deflecting bullets? Because Thor and Surfer have both of those, and Spidey's been shown to DWARF them in combat speed.

Additionally, given that she was threatening to poke Ravager's other eye out, I doubt she was especially "holding back" her speed.

Come on now. Spidey's outmanuevered people that fly past light speed. While running or flying speed arguably should translate into combat speed, that's not always the case in comics.

Unless you have a SINGLE reference of her easily dodging, blitzing, etc. someone with significant super-speed, there's no way you can act like that's part of her power-set in a fight.

Spidey's record against Namor is better than her record against Superboy. Heck, Spidey's record against Thor is better than her record against Kon.

Those Superman robots varied greatly in power. The ones in The Insiders arc were getting owned left and right by everyone they fought. If you want a similar reference, Spidey owned a bunch of Mindless Ones around ASM#500. Do you really want me to list the major superhumans Spidey's beaten? Comparing their best fight performances works deeply in Spidey's favor (partially due to his greater number of appearances, of course)

(partially to everyone jobbing to him of course)

in forum rule sit state sveryone fights to their best of their ablities menaing WG will use her super speed.

Now the big difference between these two si taht Spideys fights against people like Naamor and Thor are looked upon a smvsfl.

While all of Wg's battlle feats have been shown to be accurate innterpetaions of how the fights would go.

So comparring the two's battle feats isn't really that good of an idea for you 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That's pis. Not even Superman took any punches from a full powered SBP. He was knocking people's heads off by mistake. He sent black adam in orbit with a punch. Cassie is just too good of a character to let be killed. that is the only reason her head is still on her shoulders.

and he never even punched her. He pushed her head into conners. He wasn't even trying to kill her. You can tell by the fight. He coudl have killed her instantly on the spot if he wanted to. Unless you think she's stronger than all theo gl's who got killed?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That's pis. Not even Superman took any punches from a full powered SBP. He was knocking people's heads off by mistake. He sent black adam in orbit with a punch. Cassie is just too good of a character to let be killed. that is the only reason her head is still on her shoulders.

The only time he fought him was on Mojo and that was when the had both been depowered a great deal.

Also the scan I showed of sbp hitting Wg was after he ha djust though Martian Manhunter, Powergirl, Black Adam, Lady Quark, Nightshade, and the Ray at thhe same time.
So he was obviously weakened and fatigued.
However even tired as he was still very strong so that feat should not be regarded as pis.

How can something be "SvFL" if it's consistently happened since the character's creation? It's not like Spidey's the only one who does it either. People at his power level or lower hurt or even defeat upper level opponents all the time. Comics simply aren't realistic when it comes to converting "lift strength" to "fight strength." That's why Spidey comes off as about 10X stronger than someone like Captain America, as opposed to 100X stronger.

Besides, if you use that logic, Spidey "jobs" whenever he faces martial artists. The way I see it, if one class of beings can consistently hurt another, it's valid.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
How can something be "SvFL" if it's consistently happened since the character's creation? It's not like Spidey's the only one who does it either. People at his power level or lower hurt or even defeat upper level opponents all the time. Comics simply aren't realistic when it comes to converting "lift strength" to "fight strength." That's why Spidey comes off as about 10X stronger than someone like Captain America, as opposed to 100X stronger.

Besides, if you use that logic, Spidey "jobs" whenever he faces martial artists. The way I see it, if one class of beings can consistently hurt another, it's valid.

If a ten year old hits me with all his might in my face, it's gonna hurt. If he catches me off guard and hits me with something, he may be able to knock me out. Spiderman can win this.

Superman actually did shrug off a punch from a full power SBP as he and Kal-L carried him across galaxies. But then, Spidey's taken hits from The Juggernaut without being KOed. And I actually think Wonder Girl WAS KOed after that backhand from SBP, given she wasn't seen for several more pages.

Mind you, one hit from Spidey's not KOing her. But a speed-blitz from him can.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If a ten year old hits me with all his might in my face, it's gonna hurt. If he catches me off guard and hits me with something, he may be able to knock me out. Spiderman can win this.

WUSS. 😛

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Superman actually did shrug off a punch from a full power SBP as he and Kal-L carried him across galaxies. But then, Spidey's taken hits from The Juggernaut without being KOed. And I actually think Wonder Girl WAS KOed after that backhand from SBP, given she wasn't seen for several more pages.

Mind you, one hit from Spidey's not KOing her. But a speed-blitz from him can.

Yeah, he's going to speedblitz somebody who's faster than he is. 🙄 Wonder Girl ftw.

Originally posted by batdude123
WUSS. 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and he never even punched her. He pushed her head into conners. He wasn't even trying to kill her. You can tell by the fight. He coudl have killed her instantly on the spot if he wanted to. Unless you think she's stronger than all theo gl's who got killed?

so what your saying really isn't an apt comparisson. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
WUSS. 😛

I'm just trying to illustrate that even tho cassie out classes spidey in strength, she can still lose. I don't even think she's class 100 yet. Cuz She got her booty handed to her by Giganta.

You think a ten year old can knock you out if he sneaks up on you and catches you by surprise? 😑

Is it a ninja ten year old?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If a ten year old hits me with all his might in my face, it's gonna hurt. If he catches me off guard and hits me with something, he may be able to knock me out. Spiderman can win this.

You guys are all going off of power alone. how many times do people say thor can win battle's not only becuz of power but skill. Spider is Waaaaaaaaaay more skilled and experienced than Wonder Girl. She has a bad attitude. She rushes into battles. She's just outclassed in this match when it comes to skills, battle savy, and experience.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You think a ten year old can knock you out if he sneaks up on you and catches you by surprise? 😑

Is it a ninja ten year old?

NICE! hysterical2

Originally posted by Devil Lance
well for one thing SBP didn't punch the gL's he use his ice breath to freeze them then he blasted through them with his faster than light speed.
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00180yo.jpg

That would give a newb the impression that Iceman can take down a few GL's himself.