Originally posted by Air Legend
No that eyesogod account was you, even if you don't want to admit it. Erik isn't because he wasn't banned (different ip). That boardwalker thing was a mistake by me cuz I didn't check his profile and just assumed it because he sounded the same. I even admitted I was wrong after I checked the profile, read the thread.
Um no. Sorry. I will bet a million pennies it wasn't me. Salem Witch hunt.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes,But when he wanted to bring her back what happened?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And if he were so powerful, then why not blink her out of existance?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What was the cup about?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Didn't he trick her into drinking it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If you actually stopped trying to insult on the sly, maybe you'd know that I had read it.
Originally posted by Air Legend
He brought her back.The same reason the Presence decided to eat all the people instead of blinking them out of existence, because he didn't want to.
Something the Beyonder used to wipe Death from existence.
No, he just summoned her and made her drink it. The other abstracts didn't want him to, but Beyonder did anyways.
Well if you did read it then you wouldn't be asking these questions. Beyonder was a cool character, why don't you want to give him the credit he deserves?
The beyonder was a cool character. He was no presence. The beyonder couldn't even beat Lucifer. He was a dummy. He was ignorant. He messed with things he shouldn't have. I don't even see him as any more powerful than Mr. Mxy. And I love mxy. So me giving him that much credit is saying a lot. He can't beat the presence. The Presence is both omnipotent and Omnicient. The beyonder was niether. Since he dind't create the marvel universe that he invaded, we know he wasn't omnipotent. there was some other's creation out there in his same wrealm. the wrealm of Marvel comics.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder was a cool character. He was no presence. The beyonder couldn't even beat Lucifer. He was a dummy. He was ignorant. He messed with things he shouldn't have. I don't even see him as any more powerful than Mr. Mxy. And I love mxy. So me giving him that much credit is saying a lot. He can't beat the presence. The Presence is both omnipotent and Omnicient. The beyonder was niether. Since he dind't create the marvel universe that he invaded, we know he wasn't omnipotent. there was some other's creation out there in his same wrealm. the wrealm of Marvel comics.
Originally posted by Air Legend
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Okay I'm not going to debate with you if you think Classic Beyonder would lose to Lucifer or Mxy, plain and simple.
Lucifer would beat the crap out of Classic Beyonder. With out lifting a finger. And Mxy and classic Beyonder are equals. Where did I say mxy beats him? Please show me.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Without the Presence there, Beyonder would solo the DC universe.
Not. The Beyonder can't even beat the Current LT. LT is superior now than he was back in the days of the beyonder. The Spectre=LT. The Beyonder would get stopped dead in his tracks if the presence told the Spectre to stop him. The beyonder is also an idiot to whom which lucifer would have no problem taking his power. Or getting him to kill himself.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not. The Beyonder can't even beat the Current LT. LT is superior now than he was back in the days of the beyonder. The Spectre=LT. The Beyonder would get stopped dead in his tracks if the presence told the Spectre to stop him. The beyonder is also an idiot to whom which lucifer would have no problem taking his power. Or getting him to kill himself.
Originally posted by Air Legend
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What feats does Classic beyonder have that Put him at omniversal lvl? Obviously he wasn't omniversal. He didn't create the marvel omniverse that existed before he came. And to hell with that classic marvel multiverse = the current marvel multiverse crap. That is rediculous. That would mean that any feat performed on the universe before the discovery of the multiverse would equal the multiverse. blah blah. So we know he isn't the supreme being of marvel. Was he even supreme in marvel? Didn't the creature, Molecule man give him a good fight? And Even classic molecule man, is nothing but a mote to the power of the LT in his current status. And yet you laugh? Oh how the children are lead.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When you can prove that the Classic molecule man has power over the omniverse then you laughing will mean something. Right now, you look rather uninformed to me.
Therefore, PR MM is still greater than LT.
Originally posted by Air Legend
LT has never been [B]officially retconned. LT was never "upgraded," because an upgrade is the same as a retcon. LT has just displayed more impressive feats since then.Therefore, PR MM is still greater than LT. [/B]
Actually the LT was retconned. The Moment The beyonder and MM were Retconned. The entire storyline was retconned. Thus you might as well remove the LT out of it, since it never happened. Thus you must go by his current feats against thiers in the story as if it was a what if.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually the LT was retconned. The Moment The beyonder and MM were Retconned. The entire storyline was retconned. Thus you might as well remove the LT out of it, since it never happened. Thus you must go by his current feats against thiers in the story as if it was a what if.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlspectre is no way near lt. lt would pawn spectre.
Not. The Beyonder can't even beat the Current LT. LT is superior now than he was back in the days of the beyonder. The Spectre=LT. The Beyonder would get stopped dead in his tracks if the presence told the Spectre to stop him. The beyonder is also an idiot to whom which lucifer would have no problem taking his power. Or getting him to kill himself.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Prove it. That's right. You can't.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Stalemate/Draw.At the time, if my history/memory serves me correct, PR Beyonder was Marvel's "TOAA", serving as its substitute before it (TOAA) came into being. Thus PR Beyonder=TOAA=The Presence. Same being.
Done. End of Story.
Thread closed. 😛
NO. The Preretconned beyonder was never the One above all as he never created the Marvel Multiverse. It wasn't his. Thus he wasn't the one above all. He also was very unwise. His feats also don't stack up to the Presences feats. Thus he does not draw. he can't even beat the current LT.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. The Preretconned beyonder was never the One above all as he never created the Marvel Multiverse. It wasn't his. Thus he wasn't the one above all. He also was very unwise. His feats also don't stack up to the Presences feats. Thus he does not draw. he can't even beat the current LT.
Allow me to partially disagree, Nvr....
Wasn't this the same LT who was quacking in his boots, when PR Beyonder erased Death from existence with a mere notion?