Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence

Started by Endless Mike42 pages

Originally posted by Air Legend
This is what you said:

"I guess that makes Deadpool omnipotent." Sounds like you're comparing him to "God" to me.

I was being sarcastic by challenging his claim that fictional representations of authors and comics inside of the comics themselves count as feats of omnipotence.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Maybe I should use a different example as well. In Lobo's series, at one point the author (who was depicted as a character in the series, as in FF), got beaten up, and Lobo wrote his own comic. Does that make Lobo equal to TOAA?

🙁 Just say sorry to Mr Master.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You're repeating the same thing over again.

Actually I only repeated it once.

And that's because you didn't address those points.

You see how meticulous I am (I told ya, I take this stuff seriously)

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I never said Deadpool was referred to as God or anything,

So then this is incosequential.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
but the fact that actual comics are shown inside the comics is not a feat for the characters.

You're still comparing the two,

it was two completely different situations.

Deadpool was looking at a Marvel Comic, nice,
Jamie Braddock manipulated Alfie's entire Universe through a Comic Book too.

Even nicer.

TOAA/God was depicted in a business affair with his partner the Writer,
discussing Comic Books that will be CREATED BY THEM,
to be PUBLISHED in the REAL WORLD!

Get it. (SEE the Difference)

I'm almost done.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
It doesn't make them somehow more than just characters.

They're fictional representations of actual artists.

No one said they were more than characters,

what was said is that the drawings of God/TOAA within Marvel Comics,

REPRESENT Human Beings that ARE MORE than Characters, that are real people.

No one in specific, just the Artists and Writers of Marvel.

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So a simple analogy is this:

Jim Starlin Wrote The End: Marvel (so he would be TOAA)

Al Milgrom was the Artist of The End: Marvel (so he would be God)

This is how FF#511 depicted God/TOAA on panel.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
And what do you mean the 4th wall doesn't exist in Marvel?
The 4th wall exists in all fiction.

Never seen that term on panel or in a bio in Marvel.

Don't know about the rest of Comicdom, but it's inconsequential anyway.

So then since Lobo took over for his artist and wrote his own comic at one point, what does that mean?

And just because you haven't seen the term used in a comic, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If I wrote a novel and organized it into paragraphs, but never actually used the word "paragraph" to describe it, does that mean it doesn't have paragraphs?

I can't belive discussions like "Marvel's supreme being is stronger than DC's because he's the writer" actually take place . This is what makes people think comics are for kids 😆

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I can't belive discussions like "Marvel's supreme being is stronger than DC's because he's the writer" actually take place . This is what makes people think comics are for kids 😆
well the presence has been stalemated while marvels supreme cant be stalemated. on panel proof.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I can't belive discussions like "Marvel's supreme being is stronger than DC's because he's the writer" actually take place . This is what makes people think comics are for kids 😆

hysterical2
This coming from the person who says DC is simply more powerful.

This coming from the person who says DC is simply more powerful.

You have something personal with me kid ? You feel , as I said , inferior and want to make up for it by being a stalker and trying to insult me ?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You have something personal with me kid ? You feel , as I said , inferior and want to make up for it by being a stalker and trying to insult me ?

So now you want to start a fight with me? Just go away nvr. You always make yourself look like a fool.

So now you want to start a fight with me?

That's called irony

Just go away nvr. You always make yourself look like a fool.

😆

You're going on ignore . See ya

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
That's called irony

😆

You're going on ignore . See ya

nvr, you act like people care that you're putting them on ignore 🙄

Originally posted by Air Legend
hysterical2
This coming from the person who says DC is simply more powerful.
😆 😂

Originally posted by Air Legend
nvr, you act like people care that you're putting them on ignore 🙄
i find it funny to that people who u disagree with put u on ignore. that always makes me laugh so much. its like these people want to be around a bunch of posters with the exact same set of opinions.

😆 🤣 😂 at those who put people with a dissenting opinion on ignore.

Originally posted by Air Legend
nvr, you act like people care that you're putting them on ignore 🙄

This kind of foolishness is why i was banned an extra three days. You prolly are the one who made the fake sock account. And then attacking someone else just becuz they have an actual mind. Are you one of the decendants of the salem witch hunters? It sure seems like it.

The presence wins. The Beyonder could barely kill death. Or ressurect her. he didn't kill The MM. The Presence creates beings as powerful as the beyonder in his sleep. Lucifer or Michael anyone? Mxy? All far beneath the presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This kind of foolishness is why i was banned an extra three days. You prolly are the one who made the fake sock account. And then attacking someone else just becuz they have an actual mind. Are you one of the decendants of the salem witch hunters? It sure seems like it.

They banned your sock account. However, this guy has similar characteristics and wasn't banned because the ip didn't match obviously.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The presence wins. The Beyonder could barely kill death. Or ressurect her. he didn't kill The MM. The Presence creates beings as powerful as the beyonder in his sleep. Lucifer or Michael anyone? Mxy? All far beneath the presence.

If you actually read a comic book for once, you wouldn't make up so many things about Marvel. He summoned Death, gave her a cup, and wiped her from existence. That's not barely killing death, he did it pretty easily, and did it all while limiting his powers.

Originally posted by Air Legend
They banned your sock account. However, this guy has similar characteristics and wasn't banned because the ip didn't match obviously.

Um No. Sorry Bud. Couldn't have been me. I played City of Heroes most of the time away at home and only glanced in when I was at work. It was a witch hunt. As is obvious as I've seen several posters attacked for being me and then it turns to someone being board walker.

Originally posted by Air Legend
If you actually read a comic book for once, you wouldn't make up so many things about Marvel. He summoned Death, gave her a cup, and wiped her from existence. That's not barely killing death, he did it pretty easily, and did it all while limiting his powers.

Yes,But when he wanted to bring her back what happened? And if he were so powerful, then why not blink her out of existance? What was the cup about? Didn't he trick her into drinking it. If you actually stopped trying to insult on the sly, maybe you'd know that I had read it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um No. Sorry Bud. Couldn't have been me. I played City of Heroes most of the time away at home and only glanced in when I was at work. It was a witch hunt. As is obvious as I've seen several posters attacked for being me and then it turns to someone being board walker.

No that eyesogod account was you, even if you don't want to admit it. Erik isn't because he wasn't banned (different ip). That boardwalker thing was a mistake by me cuz I didn't check his profile and just assumed it because he sounded the same. I even admitted I was wrong after I checked the profile, read the thread.