Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Yeah but that never happened, the whole story arc was a scenario Emma put in his head.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah but that never happened, the whole story arc was a story Emma put in his head.
It was a fear...but it was written to be realistic....which includes all of Wolveys powers etc..and includes everything that could have occured in it....
Anyway do you think Wolverine can Blitz Storm or Sue?
Originally posted by wolvertooth
you showed one of wolverines worst moments sure... every character has one of this.... like when omega red kicked colossus ass really hard... or when calisto took him out.... or when gladiator trashed him like a can .... there are much much more
Answer me this...do you think Wolvey can Blitz Storm, Sue, Psylocke etc when they are ready and preped for battle?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Answer me this...do you think Wolvey can Blitz Storm, Sue, Psylocke etc?
Wolverine might be able to get one hit of against Sue before she can raise a force field. If she was grounded at the start of a fight it is possible Wolverine could blitz Storm. It has already been shown that reading Wolverine's mind doesn't help Psylocke against Wolverine because his execution is too fast and he as already done what he was thinking of by the time he thought it stating that "his thought and action are one." You have to be a telepath and have super speed like Mr. X to capitalize on reading Wolverine's mind.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine might be able to get one hit of against Sue before she can raise a force field. If she was grounded at the start of a fight it is possible Wolverine could blitz Storm. It has already been shown that reading Wolverine's mind doesn't help Psylocke against Wolverine because his execution is too fast and he as already done what he was thinking of by the time he thought it stating that "his thought and action are one." You have to be a telepath and have super speed like Mr. X to capitalize on reading Wolverine's mind.
Psylocke is a telekinetic now. No way is he speed-blitzing her.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine might be able to get one hit of against Sue before she can raise a force field. If she was grounded at the start of a fight it is possible Wolverine could blitz Storm. It has already been shown that reading Wolverine's mind doesn't help Psylocke against Wolverine because his execution is too fast and he as already done what he was thinking of by the time he thought it stating that "his thought and action are one." You have to be a telepath and have super speed like Mr. X to capitalize on reading Wolverine's mind.
Wolverine would blitz Storm before she can summon a gust? And Sue before she can erect a shield?
Psylocke is only a telekinetic now...so would he be able to blitz her?
What about Magma...Sway...Petra...Magneto...Polaris...etc...
If he's that quick could he take them out before they had the time to react?
Originally posted by Sub_MarinerWhy would he run through her body? That's just stupid. He rushes past her, while slashing, but even if he did rush right at her, this is what would happen:
So if Wolverine is moving at "Superhuman speeds" he won't stop at shadowcat but she iwll be ready and just let him phase through her and take his organs with her.
The slash that leads his rush will disrupt her phasing ability, meaning she will not be phasing through the rest of his bady, which means there will be no organ phasing. She will hit his chest completely solid, or she will be in pain so freakishly intense she wont be able to think enough to organ rip. Kitty dead or KO.
Originally posted by SparkzIt has been stated in Namor # 24 that Logan's movements are too fast to be followed by the human eye. In Wolverine vol. 2 # 33 or 34 Wolverine takes on a cadre of gun toting assassins. They shoot at him from across the bar and remark that they can't see him move, not until later in the issue when he is wounded. And then they can only barely follow his movements. In Uncanny # 213 Wolverine and Sabretooth are fighting and they move so fast Psylocke sees nothing but a blur even though she is using her telepathy to watch the fight.
Erm in that scan Wolverine didn't move faster than human eye could see, as those guys saw something happen, it was to quick for them to make out what happened but by no means was to fast to see.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakYet his thought process is fast enough to allow him to use super senses to detect air pressure changes and duck with enough speed to save himself and Storm from an optic blast coming from BEHIND him. Another example is when his thought process was fast enough to allow him to sense a hidden laser as it fires from a few feet away, and still have enough time to knock Rogue's feet out from under her so neither gets hit. Wolverineand Sabretooth's speed are both too fast for Psylocke's telepathic thought process in Uncanny # 213.
No I'm comparing his thought processing to a normal human...his reflexes might be super fast but his thought processing is still the same as a normal human...Wolvie doesn' t have any feats to show that he processes thoughts at super speeds
His sense detection, processing, and his action are fast enough to react to lazers from a few feet away. That's beyond any human thought processing IMO.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakI dont have a scanner, so you wont get any pics out of me, but when Psylocke turns into Lady Mandarin in Uncanny and attacks Logan she tries to use her telepathy to anticipate all Logan's moves. She can't keep up with him and he responds,
He still has to think to do anything...do you have a scan where it specifically says his action and thought occur at the same instant?
"What's wrong? Never fought an opponent to who thought and action are one and the same?" And his thought process had to be super fast here because at this time Wolverine was dying from adamantium poisoning and thus his enhanced speed was not available to him.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakWithin a 25 foot distance I believe he could if written to his potential, but not from further away than that.
In your opinion could he Wolvie-Blitz Storm or Sue?
Originally posted by ExodusCloakThis is just like the whole Cyclops forest clearing optic blast. A tactic like that might work (although I can't ever remember her doing something like that. Phasing the Astonishing team from a Sentinel blast had her looking VERY tired.) But this tactic only works in an ARENA fight where no civilians are in Danger. Kitty can only use tactics like this if they fight on the moon, otherwise innocents will be killed and Kitty will not kill an innocent.
If he's too far away or jumps away then she goes underground...and then starts phasing certain parts of the arena until he falls through...it's simple....trial and error until he falls through..she doesn't even need to come up...
And even if Wolverine does fall through part of the phased arena (which I'd still like to see a scan of) the fall wont do anything to him. He can survive a fall from 85,000 feet and that's after his healing factor is maxed out by 5000 rounds of ammo.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakThen this eventually becomes a stealth fight or hide and go seek.
No I'm basically saying that her phase happens quicker then his lunge...because it requires less thought processing and time to pull off....meaning she can pull off her attack before he can can complete his attack...
Originally posted by MetalmanxHer ninja training is a drop in the bucket compared to Wolverine's ninja training. She was with Ogun for a hiccup. Wolverine was with Ogun for years. And after that he lived in a Ninja villiage. And Kitty's reaction time is squat to what Wolverine's is.
Kitty was trained pretty intensely as a ninja and all methods of ninjitsu. Her reaction time is unbelievable.
Originally posted by MetalmanxUntil she tries to phase through adamantium. Which will happen eventually. Then she dies.
[B]Unless Kitty is sleeping when Wolverine lunges at her, she won't have any trouble avoiding him.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakIf she tries to phase him underground (which is the only way she can really hurt him with her phasing power) she will get cut as soon as she touches him. Wolverine's reflexes assure us that will happen. If that happens Kitty will get KOed or turn solid while in the ground and she will die. She also has to be fast enough to grab him, which isn't likely.
[B]But he's not going to be able to reach her if he is far away...and if they are near each other then he gets phased underground
Originally posted by srankmissingninBeat me to it.
Yeah but that never happened, the whole story arc was a scenario Emma put in his head.
