Originally posted by tkitna
Spidey beating Samson?Wolverine beating Galactus?
Batman with 3 minutes prep beating God?
(I think i'm getting the jest of these forums)
Honestly, I don't see why Spidey defeating Samson would be such a giant unfathomable feat.
I think it'd be quite easy for Spidey to take him down.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, I don't see why Spidey defeating Samson would be such a giant unfathomable feat.I think it'd be quite easy for Spidey to take him down.
I need to know how and please dont say Spidey is carrying his barber shears with him either. We have a class 15 character battling a class 70 or more character. I dont see the logic here. Ok, Spidey is a lot faster. So what. What is Spiderman going to do to Samson that is actually going to take him down. Eventually, Samson will get ahold of Spiderman and in any realistic fashion, should be ripping limbs off of him.
Originally posted by tkitna
I need to know how and please dont say Spidey is carrying his barber shears with him either. We have a class 15 character battling a class 70 or more character. I dont see the logic here. Ok, Spidey is a lot faster. So what. What is Spiderman going to do to Samson that is actually going to take him down. Eventually, Samson will get ahold of Spiderman and in any realistic fashion, should be ripping limbs off of him.
Spidey is now around class 20+ actually, thanks to recent physical upgrades.
And I've been told by pretty much everyone on here that Doc is only class 25. And really, to be honest, it wouldn't matter if Samson was a class 70 opponent. Spidey's taken down far stronger opponents before.
Rhino. Laugh all you want. He's a class 75-80 character and insanely durable.
Morlun.
Hulk.
And that's just off the top of my head.
Spidey for the win.
Edit: Oh yea. And unless Samson's hair is Kryptonian in nature, Spidey has far more than enough strength to rip it out of his head.
Originally posted by tkitna
When did Leonard get so weak?Is this the durable Rhino that your talking about?
Not to burst your bubble, but Spidey could do the same thing to Rhino. Rhino only weighs 710 lbs. That's light as a feather compared to what Spidey can lift. If he grabbed his leg like that, he could easily reproduce what Samson did.
Rhino's powers:
The Rhino has superhuman strength enabling him to lift approximately 80 tons under optimal conditions. He also possesses superhuman speed (capable of running at nearly 100 mph), endurance, and a high degree of imperviousness to physical harm even without Rhino suit. The suit boosts his strength, features a bulletproof polymer mat rhino-like hide and two horns capable of penetrating 2-inch plate steel. It is highly impervious to damage, able to resist explosions equivalent to 1 ton of TNT, the impact of small anti-tank weaponry, and temperature extremes between -50˚ and 1,000˚ F without cracking or melting. It is acid resistant and removeable.
If Rhino weren't such a dumbass, he could kick Samson's ass.
And Spidey would be strong enough to lodge Rhino into a solid rock wall? I dont think so. If Spidey could do that, dont you think he would have done it one of the first 90 times they fought?
Doc and Rhino fought again too and the results were the same although the Rhino had a better showing.
Also, if writers wrote comics the way they should, Rhino should be kicking Spidermans ass 9/10 too.
Originally posted by tkitna
And Spidey would be strong enough to lodge Rhino into a solid rock wall? I dont think so. If Spidey could do that, dont you think he would have done it one of the first 90 times they fought?Doc and Rhino fought again too and the results were the same although the Rhino had a better showing.
Also, if writers wrote comics the way they should, Rhino should be kicking Spidermans ass 9/10 too.
No. The comics are written correctly. What you want is a complete reality-change. You want Rhino to be smarter. That would be a different character altogether. Rhino is properly written as being dumb with vast superhuman strength and durability. He's a tank, pure and simple. Spidey has been beating Tanks since he was 15.
And yes, Spidey is easily strong enough to lodge Rhino into a solid rock wall. Why hasn't he done it? Well then Samson would've looked like quite the copycat now, wouldn't he?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
No. The comics are written correctly. What you want is a complete reality-change. You want Rhino to be smarter. That would be a different character altogether.
No, I want Spiderman to be treated as his stats indicate. A 15 ton superhero hitting or trying to beat-up an 80 ton hero or villian is ridiculous. This would be the same comparison as my 8 year old daughter hitting me and actually taking me down. I dont care if my daughter had the speed of the Flash and landed 1,000 punches in such amount of time,,,,i'd still be sitting in my chair with a pepsi watching TV. Pretty much the same as the Rhino and Samson if Spiderman ever took to the offensive. Thats what I mean about a correctly written comic.
Originally posted by tkitna
No, I want Spiderman to be treated as his stats indicate. A 15 ton superhero hitting or trying to beat-up an 80 ton hero or villian is ridiculous. This would be the same comparison as my 8 year old daughter hitting me and actually taking me down. I dont care if my daughter had the speed of the Flash and landed 1,000 punched in such amount of time,,,,i'd still be sitting in my chair with a pepsi watching TV. Pretty much the same as the Rhino and Samson if Spiderman ever took to the offensive. Thats what I mean about a correctly written comic.
Then either you know nothing of physics (comic-wise or actual), or you want a really boring comic book.
The Flash can hit harder than Superman. Now tell me, is Flash stronger than Superman physically? No. And yet the Flash can hit harder than Superman.
Spidey's ability to chip away at a stronger opponent's defense has been one of his greatest skills since he was first introduced.
If your eight-year-old daughter gained the powers of the Flash and decided to punch you using her new-found super speed, whatever she hit would be destroyed. One punch would do it.
And Spider-Man's a bit stronger nowadays. Around the class 20+ range.
Spidey aint no Flash though. Nobody can tell me his speed is great enough for his punches to be the equivalent of a hero in the range of the Hulk, Thing, Thor, or Samson for that matter. Also, what happens when he does hit one of those characters with punches like that? He'd be walking around with two casts on his arms.
This is silly. Spiderman (ala Wolverine) sells comics and thats why he has feats that are so out of his league. He should never be able to beat Samson or any other high tier hero or villan for that matter.