Doc Samson vs. Spiderman

Started by Metalmanx7 pages
Originally posted by tkitna
Spidey aint no Flash though.

Ah, good one there. He can be taught!

You're right. He's not. But he might as well be compared to Doc. Or Rhino for that matter. Spidey has every advantage here except for strength and durability.

And, well, we've seen how well he handles people stronger and more durable than him.

P.S.--He beats them!

Originally posted by tkitna
No, I want Spiderman to be treated as his stats indicate. A 15 ton superhero hitting or trying to beat-up an 80 ton hero or villian is ridiculous. This would be the same comparison as my 8 year old daughter hitting me and actually taking me down. I dont care if my daughter had the speed of the Flash and landed 1,000 punches in such amount of time,,,,i'd still be sitting in my chair with a pepsi watching TV. Pretty much the same as the Rhino and Samson if Spiderman ever took to the offensive. Thats what I mean about a correctly written comic.

Wow. So I guess in the great scheme of things strength really does matter.

Well if your daughter had the speed of Flash plus the strength to press 20+ tons and all she needed was to yank out your hair then I'm gonna go with the little girl for the win.

Basically your point is that practically every Spider-Man comic printed since his inception is wrong cause most of his villians are much stronger than he is. Venom, Carnage, Rhino, Scorpion, Green Goblin...you get my drift. Guess we've all been lead astray for the past 40 years

Originally posted by tkitna
No, I want Spiderman to be treated as his stats indicate. A 15 ton superhero hitting or trying to beat-up an 80 ton hero or villian is ridiculous. This would be the same comparison as my 8 year old daughter hitting me and actually taking me down. I dont care if my daughter had the speed of the Flash and landed 1,000 punches in such amount of time,,,,i'd still be sitting in my chair with a pepsi watching TV. Pretty much the same as the Rhino and Samson if Spiderman ever took to the offensive. Thats what I mean about a correctly written comic.
You obviously don't understand the simple concept that the faster something moves, the more momentum it carries.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You obviously don't understand the simple concept that the faster something moves, the more momentum it carries.

Think we need to give a physics lesson

Not in a comics debate forum we don't🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Not in a comics debate forum we don't🙂

Go and troll the GTF Soleran.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is silly. Spiderman (ala Wolverine) sells comics and thats why he has feats that are so out of his league. He should never be able to beat Samson or any other high tier hero or villan for that matter.

That's not true.

Doc Samson is very durable, but not as durable as let's say Hulk, who has been hurt by Spider-Man on more than one occasion. Spider-Man will not hold back in this fight - why would he ? - and please believe me, a speedblitzing Spider-Man has a good chance of beating Doc Samson.

Don't forget his webs by the way. You have to be class 100 (more or less of course) before you can easily break them. Last time I checked, Samson wasn't class 100, correct me if I'm mistaken.

Spider-Man 8/10.

Replace Firelord with Doc Samson...

Originally posted by grey fox
Go and troll the GTF Soleran.

It's GDF, fyi.

Samson has a legitimate shot at winning some of the fights against Spiderman.

Also you don't have to be class 100 to rip Spiderman's webbing with relative ease.

Originally posted by Soleran
It's GDF, fyi.

Samson has a legitimate shot at winning some of the fights against Spiderman.

Also you don't have to be class 100 to rip Spiderman's webbing with relative ease.

Meh , ether way stop Trolling here and do it somewhere else.

I understand Samson has a legitimate shot , he has a 3.7/10 of winning.

Replace a very angry Hulk with Doc Samson.

And yeah, in the end, Hulk was about to kill Spider-Man, but this was a pre-upgraded Spider-Man against a very angry Hulk - this is only a small part of the battle, and he did very well.

Doc has a chance. Just a pretty small one.

Part 2

Originally posted by marvelprince
Doc has a chance. Just a pretty small one.
Originally posted by grey fox

I understand Samson has a legitimate shot , he has a 3.7/10 of winning.

I'm not knocking Spidermans speed, he has blitzed Hulk, Firelord, Absorbing Man etc etc...........

Doc has taken shots from Hulk as well he'll still garner a few wins!

Originally posted by Soleran
I'm not knocking Spidermans speed, he has blitzed Hulk, Firelord, Absorbing Man etc etc...........

Doc has taken shots from Hulk as well he'll still garner a few wins!


A few wins... I can live with that.

Spiderman should beat the tar out of Doc Samson most of the time.
He's beaten the tar out of people a lot stronger and more durable
than Doc so many times and twice on Sundays after church
with Aunt May in her finest dress.

Originally posted by tkitna
No, I want Spiderman to be treated as his stats indicate. A 15 ton superhero hitting or trying to beat-up an 80 ton hero or villian is ridiculous. This would be the same comparison as my 8 year old daughter hitting me and actually taking me down. I dont care if my daughter had the speed of the Flash and landed 1,000 punches in such amount of time,,,,i'd still be sitting in my chair with a pepsi watching TV. Pretty much the same as the Rhino and Samson if Spiderman ever took to the offensive. Thats what I mean about a correctly written comic.

I dare you to let your 8 your old daughter (or any 8 year old) hit you as hard as they can in the face 1,000 times..... your face would be so f*cked up afterwards... I'd pay to see that happen

🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
I dare you to let your 8 your old daughter (or any 8 year old) hit you as hard as they can in the face 1,000 times..... your face would be so f*cked up afterwards... I'd pay to see that happen
🙂

EXACTLY!!!
One hit isn't bad, but as they keep coming it hurts more and more.
Add the frustration of not being able to hit or dodge Spidey.
Add the constant trash-talking and jokes.
Add the webbings to the face, legs, etc.
Add some more hails of fists and kicks you can't dodge.

these ingredients are what makes a fine
upside-down flint-rubble bubble Spider beat down!

served for your pleasure since 1963.

Originally posted by tkitna
Spidey aint no Flash though. Nobody can tell me his speed is great enough for his punches to be the equivalent of a hero in the range of the Hulk, Thing, Thor, or Samson for that matter. Also, what happens when he does hit one of those characters with punches like that? He'd be walking around with two casts on his arms.

This is silly. Spiderman (ala Wolverine) sells comics and thats why he has feats that are so out of his league. He should never be able to beat Samson or any other high tier hero or villan for that matter.


your oppinion sounds really biased, spiderman hase beaten bricks all throughout his career, it's his ability to take on and win against stronger opponets that makes him well liked, the main way he beat's people like rhino is through his speed and reflexes even if he is the weaker one still remember that he IS super strong he can speed blitz people like rhino and samson all day he's strong enough to be effective against them and enough blows over a short period of time like that would take down just about anybody on marvel earth, it's been down too many times to doubt from hyde to firelord speed agility strenght and the spidersense makes a deadly combo, almost anybody caught like that will be worn down and taken out, but not only that he can get creatve with it too, kinda like the first time he beat hyde he put him throgh several walls hyde didnt even touch him