Superboy Prime (/w/ Power Armor) v.s. These Heralds

Originally posted by bigbran
He supposedly 1% of Galactus.
Plus, being near Galactus is not the fact here.
What is, is that Surfer x 50, would beat him alone.

I want you to ponder something for a moment. The Speed force makes the flashes uber. Now just imagine how many other flashes are in the speed force. Now imagine how powerful they are INSIDE the speed force. Now let's think about the fact that all those flashes, while inside the speedforce, still had to battle SBP for years. I dare say any herald that enters the speed force and fights a flash there is cooked before they even know what the hell has hit them fast enough and hard enought to peel thier atoms apart one by one that fast. SBP is extremely under rated when people dont' take the time to actually think about what he has faced.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

He simply said them at their best. GL Kyle at his best is still not Ion.

Plus he sure isn't disputing people saying it.

Plus, where is the indication that he could one punch them all?
Killing Teen Titans, with one punch?
Not being able to really KO Superboy?

Oh, I'm sorry, but I know your going to say ret con punch.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He was flown through a red sun and lost his powers relatively immediately.

Sure, after a couple of minutes exposure outside of the speedforce.
These heralds have all been owned by punches far less potent than SBP prime level strength.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I want you to ponder something for a moment. The Speed force makes the flashes uber. Now just imagine how many other flashes are in the speed force. Now imagine how powerful they are INSIDE the speed force. Now let's think about the fact that all those flashes, while inside the speedforce, still had to battle SBP for years. I dare say any herald that enters the speed force and fights a flash there is cooked before they even know what the hell has hit them fast enough and hard enought to peel thier atoms apart one by one that fast. SBP is extremely under rated when people dont' take the time to actually think about what he has faced.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Sure, after a couple of minutes exposure outside of the speedforce.
These heralds have all been owned by punches far less potent that SBP prime level strength.

And SBP was knocked on his ass by Martian Manhunter. "Heralds at their best."

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And SBP was knocked on his ass by Martian Manhunter. "Heralds at their best."

Originally posted by bigbran
In every thread it goes to Kyle being Ion.

Really? Interesting... so that means from now on Superman is automatically Superman Prime and Martian Manhunter is Fernus?

Originally posted by bigbran
Plus, where is the indication that he could one punch them all?
Killing Teen Titans, with one punch?
Not being able to really KO Superboy?

The fact that is upper strength level and speed is far above what is neccessary to KO any one of them?

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, I'm sorry, but I know your going to say ret con punch.

Wasn't going to bring it up, but if the power is there...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So you're saying he was heavily weakened? You're saying a heavily weakened Superboy Prime fought the GLC and they didn't job. Ok...

And SBP was knocked on his ass by Martian Manhunter. "Heralds at their best."

And yet he was owned along with that entire group afterwards.
Thanos was knocked down by Spiderman with a swinging kick. I guess that means now we discredit everything he's ever done.

Originally posted by bigbran
First of all, I want you to ponder something.
Now I know this is hard, but could you please read what I wrote, before you answer something that has nothing to do with my post?

And I want you to ponder Something. A flash inside the Speed force trumps any version of Silver Surfer I've seen. That was the point.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And yet he was owned along with that entire group afterwards.
Thanos was knocked down by Spiderman with a swinging kick. I guess that means now we discredit everything he's ever done.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Really? Interesting... so that means from now on Superman is automatically Superman Prime and Martian Manhunter is Fernus?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The fact that is upper strength level and speed is far above what is neccessary to KO any one of them?

Originally posted by bigbran

Not being able to really KO Superboy?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Wasn't going to bring it up, but if the power is there...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And yet he was owned along with that entire group afterwards.
Thanos was knocked down by Spiderman with a swinging kick. I guess that means now we discredit everything he's ever done.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I want you to ponder Something. A flash inside the Speed force trumps any version of Silver Surfer I've seen. That was the point.

Plus, I'm sure he trumps Surfer with the Unipower. Or Surfer after absorbing the Unilord... 🙄

Plus, what does Flash have to do with anything?
Flash still beat him.(or trapped him)

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ah so you're saying a heavily weakened SBP owned that entire group, and then proceeded to maim a nonjobbing GLC.

Yup. Hate DC, but that's the way it was.

You're saying that heralds that have been one shotted by far less will now miraculously shrug off blows with SBP at his best?

What's really funny is that Superboy Prime might well have been able to survive the Big bang he was going to cause. I think he might have been able to succeed since the Heroes and the corps took him so seriously. He's like the only being in the cosmos not altered by Alexander Luthor's merging of the realities. He is being under rated and over rated in the very same Forum. He's tuffer than some are admitting and he's to0 vulnerable to someone figuring out his weakness. At the speeds they would be traveling in this battle, he's bound to pass a red star and flinch or something. And then that would be all the surfer or red shift needed for the win. But SBP is going to kill some heralds along the way to him being put down.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yup. Hate DC, but that's the way it was.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You're saying that heralds that have been one shotted by far less will now miraculously shrug off blows with SBP at his best?

Originally posted by bigbran
Nope, I'm just saying how off topic threads go.
Plus, it has been stated that they are at there best.
Plus Superman doesn't turn into Superman Prime.

And Surfer doesn't turn to either the keeper or uni-surfer.
Exactly what I was getting at.

Originally posted by bigbran
He does....but not in one punch.
Plus.

Maybe not the entire group at once, but any one of them that gets close can certainly be one shotted. Outside of SS, most heralds are trash.

Originally posted by bigbran
Sure...
You've brought it up at least 5 times already.
Except Thanos has hundreds of feats to discredit this.
Superboy Prime, has a short lesson, of fighting those kinds of beings.

Yes his strength and speed feat far far exceeds Thanos and Thanos owns heralds without problem.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I.e. you're accepting feats of ludicrous jobbing because it sits well with you?
Were the heralds fighting to their best when they were "one shotted by far less" than SBP one wonders.

I.E. If it doesn't fit your criteria, it's jobbing...

Put those same heralds in SBP's place and they'd all get owned.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I.E. If it doesn't fit your criteria, it's jobbing...

Put those same heralds in SBP's place and they'd all get owned.

Were you actually kidding in the GL thread or not. I'm beginning to wonder.

Originally posted by bigbran
This has to do with reading my post...how?

Plus, I'm sure he trumps Surfer with the Unipower. Or Surfer after absorbing the Unilord... 🙄

Plus, what does Flash have to do with anything?
Flash still beat him.(or trapped him)

They didnt' beat him. Dont' you get it? he got out. And Bart was scared shitless that SBP was coming. And the Speed Force is full of flashes. WHo are all UBER there. The Flashes being in the speed force is like Superman Prime or WW being in Olympus or Odin in Asgard.It makes them so very uber in the place that actually powers them. And even then, they fought SBP for YEARS with all that power at thier disposal. And couldn't hold him. That is saying alot. Flashes moving at Unimaginable speeds with endless stamina doing all kinds of IMP's and kinetic tricks and wind mills and such and SPB Still got out. And managed to make a suit to boot. HMM.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If it's jobbing it's jobbing. 😐

Were you actually kidding in the GL thread. I'm beginning to wonder.

If you put all those heralds vs everyone that SBP fought at once, they would be owned.