Jesus Christ and the Resurrection (what does the evidence reveal?)

Started by Boris15 pages
Originally posted by ushomefree
Having faith in the risen Christ Jesus does not require intellectual suicide.

Yes.. yes it does. If you were any type of intelligent person you would know that it is fact that people do not come back from the dead. No one in all recorded history has ever done it. When you die, you're gone. Fact.

Exactly Boris! So why would anyone die over something as absurd as a man rising from the dead, to include many others? People, throughout history, have died for what they believe in; none have died over a lie! The Apostles (and many others) truly believed that Jesus resurrected. They must have seen the risen Jesus! Their was nothing romantic about being a Christian. Christians were persecuted and killed by the thousands. What else, but a true resurrection, would have that kind of power over the minds and hearts of men to face, willingly, even death?

Originally posted by ushomefree
none have died over a lie!

See, that's why people think you're stupid.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Exactly Boris! So why would anyone die over something as absurd as a man rising from the dead, to include many others? People, throughout history, have died for what they believe in; none have died over a lie! The Apostles (and many others) truly believed that Jesus resurrected. They must have seen the risen Jesus! Their was nothing romantic about being a Christian. Christians were persecuted and killed by the thousands. What else, but a true resurrection, would have that kind of power over the minds and hearts of men to face, willingly, even death?

Just ask the terrorist on 9-11. Did they die for a lie? People die for a lie all the time.

Very cute, but no; Islamic terrorists died as martyrs for Allah, to gain salvation -- paradise in Heaven w/ virgins. They honestly thought they were serving Allah (in killing infidels) and were willing to die for it. If the Islamic terrorists actually thought that Allah was nothing more than a fairytale, 9-11 would have never happened, and the Middle East would be at peace today.

Originally posted by ushomefree
to gain salvation -- paradise in Heaven

Strong motivation for a lot of people, it seems.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Very cute, but no; Islamic terrorists died as martyrs for Allah, to gain salvation -- paradise in Heaven w/ virgins. They honestly thought they were serving Allah (in killing infidels) and were willing to die for it. If the Islamic terrorists actually thought that Allah was nothing more than a fairytale, 9-11 would have never happened, and the Middle East would be at peace today.

How is the delusion of the Islamic terrorists any different then the delusion of the early Christians martyrs?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How is the delusion of the Islamic terrorists any different then the delusion of the early Christians martyrs?

Virgins....

Originally posted by Devil King
Virgins....

Like you would have a dick in heaven. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Like you would have a dick in heaven. 😆

At first, I thought that was a personal crack at me. Then I got it.

Originally posted by Devil King
At first, I thought that was a personal crack at me. Then I got it.

I am so glad you got it, 😉 😆 and did not take offence.

They take your penis at the gates of Heaven?

Oh noes!

I bet they give a few blue pills at the gates of Hell though... 🏴‍☠️

10 Essential Points About The Resurrection

The following 10 points convey essential theological information about the resurrection of Christ and help one think through the most important elements of the doctrine, especially its implications about the deity of Christ.

1) The Resurrection confirms Jesus Christ’s identity as the divine Messiah, Savior, and Lord (Rom. 1:3-4; 14:9). It proves Jesus to be who He said He was. In His resurrection, Jesus Christ permanently identified with humanity and became the God-man forever.

2) By the Resurrection, God the Father vindicates Jesus Christ’s redemptive mission and message (Matt. 16:21; 28:6). Jesus’ resurrection confirms His words as true.

3) Jesus’ resurrection from the dead (Acts 2:24; 3:15) involved all three members of the Trinity: Father (Rom. 6:4; 1 Cor. 6:14; Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:20), Son (John 10:17-18; 11:25), and Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:11).

4) The Resurrection designates Jesus Christ as the ever-living Head of the Christian church (Eph. 1:19-22).

5) Christ’s resurrection power generates and ensures the believer’s salvation (Rom. 4:25; 10:9-10; Eph. 2:5-6; Phil. 3:10).

6) Christ’s resurrection power enables all believers to live lives of gratitude to God (Rom. 6:12-13).

7) Christ’s resurrection supplies the pledge and paradigm for the future bodily resurrection of all believers (1 Cor. 6:14; 15:20, 2 Cor. 9:14; Col. 1;18; 1 Thess. 4:14).

8) Christ’s resurrection answers mankind’s greatest predicament, the inevitability of death. The Resurrection provides hope, purpose, meaning, and confidence in the presence of death (John 11:25-26; Rom. 14:7-8).

9) The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is the major theme of the apostles’ original preaching and teaching (Acts 1:22; 2:31; 4:2, 33; 17:18) and the principle doctrinal tenet of the New Testament as a whole.

10) The truth or falsity of the Christian message rests squarely upon the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 15:14-18).

Can anyone provide additional points?

Sure I can.

11) It's all a lie. (Common sense: 101.)

Re: 10 Essential Points About The Resurrection

Originally posted by ushomefree
The following 10 points convey essential theological information about the resurrection of Christ and help one think through the most important elements of the doctrine, especially its implications about the deity of Christ.

1) The Resurrection confirms Jesus Christ’s identity as the divine Messiah, Savior, and Lord (Rom. 1:3-4; 14:9). It proves Jesus to be who He said He was. In His resurrection, Jesus Christ permanently identified with humanity and became the God-man forever.

2) By the Resurrection, God the Father vindicates Jesus Christ’s redemptive mission and message (Matt. 16:21; 28:6). Jesus’ resurrection confirms His words as true.

3) Jesus’ resurrection from the dead (Acts 2:24; 3:15) involved all three members of the Trinity: Father (Rom. 6:4; 1 Cor. 6:14; Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:20), Son (John 10:17-18; 11:25), and Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:11).

4) The Resurrection designates Jesus Christ as the ever-living Head of the Christian church (Eph. 1:19-22).

5) Christ’s resurrection power generates and ensures the believer’s salvation (Rom. 4:25; 10:9-10; Eph. 2:5-6; Phil. 3:10).

6) Christ’s resurrection power enables all believers to live lives of gratitude to God (Rom. 6:12-13).

7) Christ’s resurrection supplies the pledge and paradigm for the future bodily resurrection of all believers (1 Cor. 6:14; 15:20, 2 Cor. 9:14; Col. 1;18; 1 Thess. 4:14).

8) Christ’s resurrection answers mankind’s greatest predicament, the inevitability of death. The Resurrection provides hope, purpose, meaning, and confidence in the presence of death (John 11:25-26; Rom. 14:7-8).

9) The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is the major theme of the apostles’ original preaching and teaching (Acts 1:22; 2:31; 4:2, 33; 17:18) and the principle doctrinal tenet of the New Testament as a whole.

10) The truth or falsity of the Christian message rests squarely upon the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 15:14-18).

Can anyone provide additional points?

Additional points in favor or against? 😕

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
clapping Good job xmarksthespot.

Does Santa have a book that describes who he is, where he came from, and what he has done for humanity?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Does Santa have a book that describes who he is, where he came from, and what he has done for humanity?

omg ur still here spreading bullshit?

Originally posted by chickenlover98
omg ur still here spreading bullshit?

You still notice JIA?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Does Santa have a book that describes who he is, where he came from, and what he has done for humanity?

No, but he has a really cool poem. 😉

So, if the bible had been destroyed, in the past, by some evil force, then Christianity would not be valid?

A book should not be a prerequisite for the truth.