only terry has a myspace i think. the one blog i know you saw.. ill give you a link..
Originally posted by katelovespirate
on his blog, terry compares Jack to Indiana Jones, James Bond, and, oh s***, rick from casablanca.
well THAT sucks 😂
gotta think tho..Jack's character arc doesn't appear to be immortality by the end..its way too obvious of his character to want that..and we all know what REALLY happens at the end
and James bond is continous..Jack's gotta end some time..and James bond always gets the girl at the end but necx time he doesnt...IMO if thy just made it so Jack had the girl in DMC and hen goes back to being a bachelor it wouldnt work cuz you cant just change Liz's character etc..it would look stupid....the movie isnt a new story its continuing from the last and all the situations from the last.
Originally posted by katelovespirate
I think the character fans might have to reassess is Elizabeth, for some reason she was let off easy in the first movie, even though she barters herself to Norrington, lying in order to get him to turn around and go save Will, and a lot of good sailors died as a result of that deed -- so what is her essential nature? She has demonstrated, time and again, she is more of a pirate than any of them. I am VERY interested to see how the fans will react to our story -- it is, in fact, the key question, the one that will define the fate of the franchise!woah thats intense...
well lets see..hmm 1 billion? 😂..people wern't going there to see Will/Liz snogging eachothers faces off were they?..I distinctly remember the money of the movie tounge wrestling with the lead female and people falling in love with the idea going to see it over and OVER and OVER again..I distinctly remember Will not being with Elizabeth throughout MOST of the story.
Casablanca and Jack Sparrow...
I read the whole thing about how they were comparing Jack's character to Rick's in Casablanca. They were asking this essential question: Is it that the character of Rick changes during the course of the movie, or that over the course of the movie that his true character is revealed.
The same can be said of Jack's character development during the course of the two movies. Its not that his character is changing, but more that we're seeing who he is as a person. What makes the character of Jack Sparrow so complex is that he puts up the facade of "Captain Jack Sparrow" to keep people at a distance. Like Rick, the gruff exterior was developed so that he could function in a corrupt, morally ambiguous world.
And if you really think about it, and look at the Pirates series from a larger scope, we've already seen the Casablanca ending. It can be argued, especially if you add in the deleted scenes from COTBP that Jack has already given up Elizabeth to the "hero".
Further more, we see a contrast between Will and Jack. Will is the character who has the qualities of what society would call a hero. He's handsome, reasonably intelligent, and recklessly brave. But, judging from the writer's body of works, that really isn't what makes a hero. Like Jack's sacrifice in DMC and Rick's in Casablanca, it's not open bravery that defines a hero, but the quiet, sometimes silent, heart wrenching sacrifices that make the hero.
know what..they have made jack a mixture of these 3 characters??
wouldnt you say Jack was more interested in looking like a god more than anything else in movie 1? - Indiana Jones
Movie 2 he's rick from casablanca the girl left him for her "beloved" although he did change for her etc like Rick seems to in Casablanca right?
movie 3? James bond ay?..he always gets the lady
hahah! lmao!
"Damn, we see the HARRY POTTER teaser, and they've got the sailing ship rising out of the water gag. That's one of our key images, and now it's going to look like we copied it. Do we mention it to Gore? We bring it up to him, but Gore has already seen it and talked with the guys at ILM, and he says ours is going to look better." im sorry, this made me laugh so bad! i love harry potter so yeah. i am so in love /w PoTC and HP. POTC is more tho
hahha!! i LOVE Johnny! even his jet is awesome! Johnny, can you give me a ride in your private jet??!!!I WANT YOU!!
"I found this out: If you ask for gum while travelling on Johnny's private jet, the lovely attendant will return and present you with a silver tray, linen napkin, arrayed upon it many different selections, Orbitz, Extra, Trident, Big Red, etc. Whoa, intense." i wonder what Johnny's fav gum is! I NEED 2 FIND THIS OUT!
Re: Casablanca and Jack Sparrow...
Originally posted by savvysparrow
I read the whole thing about how they were comparing Jack's character to Rick's in Casablanca. They were asking this essential question: Is it that the character of Rick changes during the course of the movie, or that over the course of the movie that his true character is revealed.The same can be said of Jack's character development during the course of the two movies. Its not that his character is changing, but more that we're seeing who he is as a person. What makes the character of Jack Sparrow so complex is that he puts up the facade of "Captain Jack Sparrow" to keep people at a distance. Like Rick, the gruff exterior was developed so that he could function in a corrupt, morally ambiguous world.
And if you really think about it, and look at the Pirates series from a larger scope, we've already seen the Casablanca ending. It can be argued, especially if you add in the deleted scenes from COTBP that Jack has already given up Elizabeth to the "hero".
Further more, we see a contrast between Will and Jack. Will is the character who has the qualities of what society would call a hero. He's handsome, reasonably intelligent, and recklessly brave. But, judging from the writer's body of works, that really isn't what makes a hero. Like Jack's sacrifice in DMC and Rick's in Casablanca, it's not open bravery that defines a hero, but the quiet, sometimes silent, heart wrenching sacrifices that make the hero.
I've been sayin that about Jack for yonks but you said it about 1 billion times better than me 😂
the dog which I always felt resembles Jack even shows this transformation in the movies..from 1 to 2..heck he even mirrors what Jack does in both movies.
Jack in movie 1=Indiana Jones, all about the image and immortality
Jack in mive 2=Rick from casablanka..he's changed for Elizabeth and she rejects him for Will
Jack in movie 3=James bond, willing hero..always gets the girl cuz he damn well deserves it by the end
next time we see him jack will be a full blown hero..he's accepted the role of king..and if he plays the part he wont perish with the new world(beckett's line, dog and the canibals w)..he also has the bone in his mouth at the end meaning he has made a change from his old way of life(keys, material possessions) to a new..he's let love in and Elizabeth in. He's also just had his sleeping beauty moment..where he dies and comes back transformed in some way
..totaly james bond..the willing hero by 3 I can bet yaz 😄..and James bond always gets the girl lol
well i also like to compare jack like zorro
now im not sure if kate comapred already
Jack is mysterious like zorr. and its like a temptation that u urge. and at the begining of the zorro movie elena and alejandro had like a love/hate relationship. sort off resembles to jack/liz.
im probably not making any sense lol
savvysparrow, that was an incredibly profound post. nice work.
yeah i totally agree about liz/jack COMPLETELY mirroring Elena/ Alejandro. it feels like the EXACT same relationship to me... except for the complication of bloody stupid will. LOL.
elena and alejandro were voted some of the hottest film lovers of all time... and their swordfight/makeout scene made that film what it was.
the same is true for Liz/Jack. they can carry the film on pure chemistry.
i hope they realize that. lol
Originally posted by katelovespirate
savvysparrow, that was an incredibly profound post. nice work.yeah i totally agree about liz/jack COMPLETELY mirroring Elena/ Alejandro. it feels like the EXACT same relationship to me... except for the complication of bloody stupid will. LOL.
elena and alejandro were voted some of the hottest film lovers of all time... and their swordfight/makeout scene made that film what it was.
the same is true for Liz/Jack. they can carry the film on pure chemistry.
i hope they realize that. lol
LOL tht is so true..its the kiss everyone is talking about..its like DAMN
people aren't talking about a "Will/Liz spanner in the works" cuz that is a CRAP story.who would keep going back to see that over and over again until the movie reached 1 billion?
So true LovelyOne!!!
And speaking of the screenwriter's biggest hits, lets talk about Schrek for a minute.
The Princess Fiona was different from other princesses... not only did she have a spell over her that turned her into an ogre at night (just as Liz secretely has pirate tendencies), but she killed birds and belched and enjoyed hanging out with ogres. (Liz is a strong leader, good sea captain, and hates corsets)
From the time she was a little girl, she dreamed of marrying Prince Charming and having her own happily ever after. (Liz had an ideal of happily ever after with Will, her childhood sweetheart)
When she realized that she was falling for Schrek, she had a total breakdown because He didn't match her IDEAL of a happily ever after. She fought with him, and then She went off and tried to marry Lord F... who fit that ideal. (Liz realizes she is falling for Jack, chains him to a doomed ship, and tries to make things work with Will)
It took Schrek's bravery to make her realize being an ogre was beautiful, and it was the perfect happily ever after for her. (insert movie 3 here)