Originally posted by Bardock42
So you agree if she wants it it is alright?
hey hey hey ive asked you questions before which you ahve not answered you answer my questions now.
If you read what I said above I said no.....and I gave you my reasons......geeeeeez.
Stop ignoring my questions. As far as im concerned if an adult is having sex with a nine year old that is advantage. The only way a nine year old is going to want to have sex at that age is if the child has it forced upon them.
Originally posted by Alfheim
hey hey hey ive asked you questions before which you ahve not answered you answer my questions now.If you read what I said above I said no.....and I gave you my reasons......geeeeeez.
Stop ignoring my questions.
Alright, so, I know she wants because that is an axiom in my hypothetical question, I know it is not the older generation forcing their will because that is another axiom. Now answer truthfully.
Do you agree that it is alright for the 9 year old to have sex if she wants it ...with knowing the possible consequences?
Also, what would be wrong with 9 year olds having consensual sex in a society where it is not deemed inappropriate?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Alright, so, I know she wants because that is an axiom in my hypothetical question, I know it is not the older generation forcing their will because that is another axiom. Now answer truthfully.
Im sorry I dont understand the above. It seems to me like your just dodging my point.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you agree that it is alright for the 9 year old to have sex if she wants it ...with knowing the possible consequences?
No
Originally posted by Bardock42
Also, what would be wrong with 9 year olds having consensual sex in a society where it is not deemed inappropriate?
No the socitey is expoliting the children. The children do it because they dont know any better. Left to there own devices it wont happen.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry I dont understand the above. It seems to me like your just dodging my point.No
No the socitey is expoliting the children. The children do it because they dont know any better. Left to there own devices it wont happen.
Why?
I answered your question. What else do you want?
Why? That is ridiculous. Also, what do they lose in having sex? You don't have to protect people from themselves.
So at what age would you say a person is allowed to consent to sex (allowed, obviously, since it is their freedom taken away, for weird nazi reasons...but that's what people are used to in society nowadays)
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why?
I dont know what an axiom is.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I answered your question. What else do you want?
Did you to tell the truth im feeling a bit queasy so I might have missed it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? That is ridiculous. Also, what do they lose in having sex? You don't have to protect people from themselves.
Well why the hell do grown ups get mad when they have been molested as children?
Originally posted by Bardock42
So at what age would you say a person is allowed to consent to sex (allowed, obviously, since it is their freedom taken away, for weird nazi reasons...but that's what people are used to in society nowadays)
I think 16 is a good start. Something tells me 9 is too young.
Futhermore form your point of view Aisha was not asked her opinion Thats is advantage.
I think its wrong end of story, regardless of wether she was asked or not.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont know what an axiom is.Did you to tell the truth im feeling a bit queasy so I might have missed it.
Well why the hell do grown ups get mad when they have been molested as children?
I think 16 is a good start. Something tells me 9 is too young.
[B]Futhermore form your point of view Aisha was not asked her opinion
Thats is advantage.I think its wrong end of story, regardless of wether she was asked or not. [/B]
Oh okay. Well, doesn't really matter anyways.
I would say if the parents did a good job a nine year old won't give into sex against her will...and if it is forced it would still be rape.
Because molestation is usually against the will of the victim. Because society tells them to be mad. Tells them it is a bad thing to have sex at that age, makes them feel like victims. Because some people want to be angry no matter what.
Why 16? Seems random. Are you saying you were a mindless tool before 16. Why deny the mature under 16 year olds that want sex with older people that right? Why deny anyone any rights when it is just about themselves?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh okay. Well, doesn't really matter anyways.I would say if the parents did a good job a nine year old won't give into sex against her will...and if it is forced it would still be rape.
Because molestation is usually against the will of the victim. Because society tells them to be mad. Tells them it is a bad thing to have sex at that age, makes them feel like victims. Because some people want to be angry no matter what.
Again I dont understand why a nine year old would want to have sex at nine if somebody didnt tell her him? Sex is not what nine years olds do. Nine years olds play with their dolls.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why 16? Seems random. Are you saying you were a mindless tool before 16. Why deny the mature under 16 year olds that want sex with older people that right? Why deny anyone any rights when it is just about themselves?
All Im going to say on this is nine is too young.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Again I dont understand why a nine year old would want to have sex at nine if somebody didnt tell her him? Sex is not what nine years olds do. Nine years olds play with their dolls.All Im going to say on this is nine is too young.
Dunno, sexual urge? I had sexual feelings at 12...why shouldn't there be some that have it at earlier ages?
Irrelevant. If the 9 year old wants it your feeling should be of no matter.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Dunno, sexual urge? I had sexual feelings at 12...why shouldn't there be some that have it at earlier ages?Irrelevant. If the 9 year old wants it your feeling should be of no matter.
Well anyway we will agree to disagree. But like I said Aisha was not aksed what she wanted from YOUR point of view this is wrong. As far as im concerned this should not happen regardless.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The only people, really, worth having a debate about Islam is muslims, or those familiar with it.Dhimmis, libreterians and other politically correct people will shit their pants to defend Islam and Muhammads behaviour, under little or no knowledge, so arguing is very pointless.
You know, and I know, that psychologists all agree, that the mental state of a nine year old is not yet fully developed, and hence we don't let nine year old have sex with 54 year olds.
Save yourself time.
Sorry saw this too late.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry its just plain advantage. Furthermore I didnt see Aisha having any say on her getting married if shes so mature why didnt they ask her? Shes mature enough to have sex but shes not mature enough to be asked.
Ofcourse her father asked her , marriage without girl s agreement is false ..I thought you know that ..