Originally posted by Alfheim
How and why? How would a nine year old be sexually awara unless you told them about it?I was just being sarcastic.
Are you serious? Were you just a mindless Zombie at 9? I sure know I wasn't. If they are not physically ready, alright, there are cases where they are at nine though. And people are not idiots at 9..well, those that aren't idiots at 40 aren't at least.
I see, for what purpose?
I think pedophilia should be analyzed then. Can it be right in someway when analyzed in a specific point of view ? Like in other cultures or such.
I am not trying to make a point here but pedophilia and morality is what must be analyzed:
I was thinking... if puberty happens so early perhaps it makes sense in someway, or else puberty should only happens when you´re 18 I think. Perhaps a great deal of our "morality" is just a cultural thing, perhaps moral relativism have some sense in it.
In the other hand I don´t think morality necessarily must agree to nature, when puberty happens or not. I mean spirituality and morality are trying to trancend nature. Nature does only dictate how animals behave we don´t have to be like then.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry its just plain advantage. Furthermore I didnt see Aisha having any say on her getting married if shes so mature why didnt they ask her? Shes mature enough to have sex but shes not mature enough to be asked.
Oh well, different times. Their behaviour doesn't fit my libertarian values either, but I just think that you shouldn't pretend that sex with a 9 year old is an argument that beats all others because it is "morally wrong" ...especially since I can think of cases where it doesn't seem wrong.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
I think pedophilia should be analyzed then. Can it be right in someway when analyzed in a specific point of view ? Like in other cultures or such.I am not trying to make a point here but pedophilia and morality is what must be analyzed:
I was thinking... if puberty happens so early perhaps it makes sense in someway, or else puberty should only happens when you´re 18 I think. Perhaps a great deal of our "morality" is just a cultural thing, perhaps moral relativism have some sense in it.
In the other hand I don´t think morality necessarily must agree to nature, when puberty happens or not. I mean spirituality and morality are trying to trancend nature. Nature does only dictate how animals behave we don´t have to be like then.
We don't have to be like them. But generally moral relativism makes a good case (it being right and all).
I agree with you mostly.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
I think pedophilia should be analyzed then. Can it be right in someway when analyzed in a specific point of view ? Like in other cultures or such.I am not trying to make a point here but pedophilia and morality is what must be analyzed:
I was thinking... if puberty happens so early perhaps it makes sense in someway, or else puberty should only happens when you´re 18 I think.
And perhaps a great deal of our "morality" is just a cultural thing, perhaps moral relativism have some sense in it.In the other hand I don´t think morality necessarily must agree to nature, when puberty happens or not. I mean spirituality and morality are trying to trancend nature. Nature does only dictate how animals behave we don´t have to be like then.
As I have said already why is a nine year old mature enough to have sex, but why is shes not mature enough to be consulted on wether she wants to get married or not?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh well, different times. Their behaviour doesn't fit my libertarian values either, but I just think that you shouldn't pretend that sex with a 9 year old is an argument that beats all others because it is "morally wrong" ...especially since I can think of cases where it doesn't seem wrong.
Answer the question why is she mature enough to have sex but shes not mature enough to be asked her opinion?
Originally posted by Alfheim
As I have said already why is a nine year old mature enough to have sex, but why is shes not mature enough to be consulted on wether she wants to get married or not?Answer the question why is she mature enough to have sex but shes not mature enough to be asked her opinion?
The only people, really, worth having a debate about Islam is muslims, or those familiar with it.
Dhimmis, libreterians and other politically correct people will shit their pants to defend Islam and Muhammads behaviour, under little or no knowledge, so arguing is very pointless.
You know, and I know, that psychologists all agree, that the mental state of a nine year old is not yet fully developed, and hence we don't let nine year old have sex with 54 year olds.
Save yourself time.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The only people, really, worth having a debate about Islam is muslims, or those familiar with it.Dhimmis, libreterians and other politically correct people will shit their pants to defend Islam and Muhammads behaviour, under little or no knowledge, so arguing is very pointless.
You know, and I know, that psychologists all agree, that the mental state of a nine year old is not yet fully developed, and hence we don't let nine year old have sex with 54 year olds.
Save yourself time.
Woah, woah, woah...I don't give a shit about Islam...I am defending my right to sleep with 9 year olds....I mean...their right to sleep with me obviously.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Meh, well anyway my point is this. If they didnt even ask her what she thinks then its plain advantage.....I think it would be wrong regardless.Hell you could date rape a person and they might not know about it, it wouldnt be right would it?
Right, I dunno. I'd be in a favour of a law against it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Right, I dunno.
.....🙄
Originally posted by Bardock42
I'd be in a favour of a law against it.
Yeah but from your logic its fine. If you date raped a person and there were not traumaitised by it then it would be ok, because they can have a nice life afterwards.
You dont have sex with nine years old period. Its just plain advantage.
Originally posted by Alfheim
.....🙄Yeah but from your logic its fine. If you date raped a person and there were not traumaitised by it then it would be ok, because they can have a nice life afterwards.
You dont have sex with nine years old period. Its just plain advantage.
I am not to judge right and wrong...neither are you...luckily.
No, you just don't get my logic. Something against their will would have happened...that is the difference.
Not if the 9 year old wants it.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not to judge right and wrong...neither are you...luckily.
Cheers
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, you just don't get my logic. Something against their will would have happened...that is the difference.
Well my point is I dont see why a nine year old would want sex unless it was shoved down thier throat......bad choice of words.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Not if the 9 year old wants it.
Why would you want to have sex at 9 unless somebody told you about it....well anyway Aisha was not askher her opinion she was just married off...that is advantage.
Originally posted by Alfheim
CheersWell my point is I dont see why a nine year old would want sex unless it was shoved down thier throat......bad choice of words.
Why would you want to have sex at 9 unless somebody told you about it....well anyway Aisha was not askher her opinion she was just married off...that is advantage.
So you agree if they want it is alright?