Originally posted by Sanctuary
That's really mean. And saying someone isn't a prophet because you don't agree with what he teaches is really lame. 😐
How is it mean? It's the truth, go read the Koran and you'll find out for yourself, what he teaches is wrong, simple.
He is not a prophet, prophets do not exist, no one can be an intermediary to a God since a God does not exist.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If you don't want to you don't have to. (That's a given anyways, so why are you even asking?)
Oh I know...but there are those who will respond with nothing but hate and judgement if i do not convert to thier stupid religion.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Believe whatever the hell you want, just don't force it onto people.
I agree with you here.
I beleive most Christians and Muslims should follow your advice.
Originally posted by Fatima
You tell us what do u find wrong in Quran ?
Hmmmm.. lets see, Muhammad marrys a child at the age of 6 I think, then he consummates the marriage at 9.
The book tells of the death to non believers! Muslims must kill all non believers... etc. Quite the ****ed up book.
Muhammad was a terrorist, the book is a joke, all who follow it are idiots.
Originally posted by Boris [/i]
[B]
Hmmmm.. lets see, Muhammad marrys a child at the age of 6 I think, then he consummates the marriage at 9.
I don't think the age is important since she was a mature ..It was a common thing in Arabia . my grandma got married at 10 so dont try to make it look as a bad thing .
The book tells of the death to non believers! Muslims must kill all non believers... etc. Quite the ****ed up book.
What could be more self-contradictory than saying that Muslims are enticing non-Muslims to Islam, while at the same time asking Muslims to kill all non-Muslims?
A reflection of that matter will clear this misunderstanding. The Prophet started preaching Islam in Makkah, being only one man in the midst of all those polytheists. How could he convert all those supporters to make Arabia almost completely Muslim, if his policy had been killing non-Muslims?!
He was not a king or a ruler; but he became the unquestioned ruler of Arabia; and every letter of the Book of God he gave them became law. Was it out of the fear of being killed that all those non-Muslims embraced Islam? And would it have been possible ever since for his religion to be continuously gaining over Christianity, which is originally a religion of mercy, unless people have seen in Islam an ever-greater mercy?
The point is that it was not the religion of Moses or Jesus Christ that Muhammad was trying to replace. It was the misinterpretations and the distortions that happened to their religion that Muhammad wanted to replace, back to their original authentic teachings. In fact, his mission was to restore the pure religion of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus (peace be upon them all). The Islamic view of the earlier religions is clear from the following verses of the Qur’an, Surah 42, verses 13 – 15:
*{He has made plain to you of the religion what He enjoined upon Nuh (Noah) and that which We have revealed to you and that which We enjoined upon Ibrahim (Abraham) and Musa (Moses) and Isa (Jesus) that keep to obedience and be not divided therein; hard to the unbelievers is that which you call them to; Allah chooses for Himself whom He pleases, and guides to Himself him who turns [to Him], frequently.
And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves; and had not a word gone forth from your Lord till an appointed term, certainly judgment would have been given between them; and those who were made to inherit the Book after them are most surely in disquieting doubt concerning it.
To this then go on inviting, and go on steadfastly on the right way as you are commanded, and do not follow their low desires, and say: I believe in what Allah has revealed of the Book, and I am commanded to do justice between you: Allah is our Lord and your Lord; we shall have our deeds and you shall have your deeds; no plea need there be [now] between us and you: Allah will gather us together, and to Him is the return.}*
If these are the teachings of the Holy Qur’an, how can anyone believe that it dictated Muslims to kill non-Muslims?!
It is true that God in His Book permits fighting, but only as a last resort. This is in the cases of:
• Fighting in the case of self-defense.
• Fighting to defend the right of everyone to believe in God and practice His religion.
• Fighting against brutal oppression and injustice.
In the time of the prophet, we find that he and his people were ruthlessly persecuted and forced out of their homes to flee their beloved town of Makkah. When the prophet (pbuh) and his followers were accorded a grand welcome in Madinah, by the people there, his enemies wanted to destroy the new religion that was taking root in the deserts of Arabia, even by eliminating Muhammad and his followers.
It was in this context that the verses permitting fighting were revealed. It was here that fighting against the kuffar (literally non-believers) is mentioned. Here, the meaning is clear: the non-believers mentioned are those who sought to kill the prophet and his followers, only. This is because, the Holy Qur’an clearly says in Surah 18, verse 29:
*{Say: “The Truth is from your Lord” - Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject [it] … … }*
The Qur’an also says in Surah 2, verse 256:
*{There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the false deities and believes in Allah, he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.}*
So, the stand of Islam here is very clear. Islam does not approve the use of force in the propagation of religion. Since God commands not to use any kind of compulsion in religion, it is obviously ridiculous to argue that the Qur’an commands Muslims to kill non-Muslims.
Muhammad was a terrorist, the book is a joke, all who follow it are idiots
Go and have some culture plz .Don't make people laugh on you .
Originally posted by Fatima
I don't think the age is important since she was a mature ..It was a common thing in Arabia . my grandma got married at 10 so dont try to make it look as a bad thing .
So you, as a Muslim, believe it is OK for a 50 something man to penetrate a 9 year old girl?
There ya have it folks, Islam = ****ed up.
Originally posted by Fatima
I don't think the age is important since she was a mature ..It was a common thing in Arabia . my grandma got married at 10 so dont try to make it look as a bad thing .
😕 Ok thats wack you really need to stop talking
Originally posted by vintageSW77
how do i feel about Islam?in my face
Thats a bit vague, could you care to elaborate....then again nevermind.
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Hey, in Europe among some of old aristocracy arranging mariages was common even between newborn babies.
Yeah and thats stupid too.
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
You canot equate such things with Islam!
How the **** would you know?
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
You guys are ignorant and confuse culture with religion. Fatima has right to feel bad if her religion and culture are insulted!
No we are not Mohammed married a nine year old. Since Islams says hes a prophet anything he does is correct. If you say otherwise you are a disbeliever.