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Originally posted by Robtard
Well, all nations around the world need to be tough on terror. Terrorist do not play by the rules books, they specifically target civilians. Having a lenient hand on terrorist will only provoke further attacks.[QUOTE=7477503]Originally posted by Robtard
[B]Thats not a bad idea, but does it really matter if the bill passed or not? If you were a soldier captured by Al Qaida of any other terrorist group, do you really think they would go easy on you if this bill didn't pass?
its quite apparent that these jihadists are bent on "eye for an eye" and making it widely publicised. will you understand when our troops are found tortured horribly in retaliation? obviously not since its already happened. every time we publicly up the ante they will follow suit. thats fact. its happened and its happening and it will continue to happen.
Originally posted by Robtard
See, comparing the technique's we use as being like Auschwitz is dressing it WAY up. Come on man, do you really think a keeping a guy up a few days is equal to slave labor followed by a trip to the gas chamber? As I said below, the only problem I see here is the no checks and balances and someone somewhere crossing the line into real torture.
you're doing it again. iraqi police are torturing prisoners in the most horrible ways. a tactic used recently is the surgical removal of kneecaps. u.s. soldiers have repeatedly beaten prisoners to death, among other acts of torture, including even crucifixion. pay attention ffs. and pay attention to the fact that they are not convicted terrorists (althougn they will be thanks to the newly approved military kangaroo court)
the line was already crossed and now it will be justified
Originally posted by PVSwe've BEEN doing that!!!!!!!!!
Proof?
Links?
Nada?
Thought so.
Stress positions? Yup.
Sleep depravation? Sure.
Dunking heads in water to point of drowning, allowing terrorist to recover, and doing it again? Uh-huh.
Stress positions, and uncomfortableness? Yup.
If we arent' cutting, slicing, shitting, or spitting, its interregation, not "torture".
That's what they do.
For no reason other than to say "fuk you."
If we were to give out a few black eyes, and a few busted lips in the pursuit of real data that would stop an attack, I wouldn't care, since that's not torture to me either.
Maybe if you took a look at your liberal "due process", and "prisoners rights" at work here in the U.S. you'd realize that our OWN prisoners face those kinds of beatings regularly, both from guards and other inmates.
This debate is bullshit.
We aren't cutting them or maiming them, or burning them with fire and weapons......
They are in turn cutting off heads, and using explosions to kill hundreds or thousands of people at a time.
We don't live in the world that you think we do anymore.
Originally posted by PVS
its quite apparent that these jihadists are bent on "eye for an eye" and making it widely publicised. will you understand when our troops are found tortured horribly in retaliation? obviously not since its already happened. every time we publicly up the ante they will follow suit. thats fact. its happened and its happening and it will continue to happen.you're doing it again. iraqi police are torturing prisoners in the most horrible ways. a tactic used recently is the surgical removal of kneecaps. u.s. soldiers have repeatedly beaten prisoners to death, among other acts of torture, including even crucifixion. pay attention ffs. and pay attention to the fact that they are not convicted terrorists (althougn they will be thanks to the newly approved military kangaroo court)
the line was already crossed and now it will be justified
Crucifixion : 😕
Jesus.... how is that even possible ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Congress Grants Unconditional Power to Bush
Originally posted by PVS
its quite apparent that these jihadists are bent on "eye for an eye" and making it widely publicised. will you understand when our troops are found tortured horribly in retaliation? obviously not since its already happened. every time we publicly up the ante they will follow suit. thats fact. its happened and its happening and it will continue to happen.you're doing it again. iraqi police are torturing prisoners in the most horrible ways. a tactic used recently is the surgical removal of kneecaps. u.s. soldiers have repeatedly beaten prisoners to death, among other acts of torture, including even crucifixion. pay attention ffs. and pay attention to the fact that they are not convicted terrorists (althougn they will be thanks to the newly approved military kangaroo court)
the line was already crossed and now it will be justified
These Jihadist are hell bent on killing period.
Are we talking about what the Iraqis are doing to their own people or America's stance on "torture" usage as a means to gain information to possibly save lives? I am completely against what the Iraqi's do, ever since they took control of Abu Gharib, the screams are endless. As far as our soldiers going over the line, I am against that too and I do not think Shrub signed a bill allowing soldiers to exact revenge at their own discretion.
Originally posted by grey fox
True , but that'll never hold up , you need DECENT wood. Plus the whole issue of the nails sliding clean through their hands.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I like your kind of Christian...lets participate in homosexual intercourse...
(See? Even conservative Christians can change their views.)
Originally posted by FeceMan
Tut, tut. Not until we're married.(See? Even conservative Christians can change their views.)
Sounds fair...
They can, they can indeed...
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
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....Actually I kinda did
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