Originally posted by hank_mccoy
and you think that ben is as dumb as rhino is just going to run blind on captain america? now you trying to make the thing dumb enough for cap to take the win?? damn is captain america becoming another wolverine?
why do you think that the thing is going to run blindly on cap if he can just hurt him from distance? thunderclap, open the ground, hell even fight him and hit him once its all he needs
cap will use his environment? maybe but he is not strong enough to hurt thing with the environment, unless they are in some missile factory and ben is going to run into an atom bomb 😆
My first post (prior to the one you quoted) said:
"Has Cap had his wolverinitis vaccination shot? Doesn't seem like it.
Thing will have a hard time laying a hand on Cap. On the other hand, there isn't too much Cap can do to hurt Thing directly; his shield will probably enrage him more than hurt him (Cap's best chance is to lure Ben into something that will take him out, for example, the way Spidey always gets the Torch to crash into a water tank). And when pissed, then Ben starts to fight smarter and may deploy thunderclap or groundshock waves.
Ben: 7/10 ... 6/10 if Cap has an environment he can make use of."
Please read all my posts before you reply.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis_(Marvel_Comics)
just for you little boy.... read the part that say
She could instinctively sense weak points in an opponent and knock out any opponent (even Thor).
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis_(Marvel_Comics)just for you little boy.... read the part that say
She could instinctively sense weak points in an opponent and knock out any opponent (even Thor).
Yeah but doesnt that imply that she has knocked out Thor? It says she has knocked out powerful opponents and then mentions Thor. It is talking in, the past tense about things she had done.
I was actually refering too Marvel.com. In hindsight it says that she has knocked out opponents as powerful as Thor but does not specify Thor himself
She could instinctively sense weak points in an opponent and knock out any opponent (even Thor)
for today lesson boys and girls we are going to learn how to read properly... 🙄 , she could means that she can but it doesn't mean that she did it she just could , also boys and girls it state that she can knock out any opponent.... even juggernaut even galactus even loki ... it does say any opponent, so what did we learn today boys and girls? don't believe bios and more then that next time you debate use real feats and not bio or some article
you think that you are so smart that you brought up a bio and then you try to twist the things it say? it say she could take out any opponent thats all it never stated that she did it
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
She could instinctively sense weak points in an opponent and knock out any opponent (even Thor)for today lesson boys and girls we are going to learn how to read properly... 🙄 , she could means that she can but it doesn't mean that she did it she just could , also boys and girls it state that she can knock out any opponent.... even juggernaut even galactus even loki ... it does say any opponent, so what did we learn today boys and girls? don't believe bios and more then that next time you debate use real feats and not bio or some article
you think that you are so smart that you brought up a bio and then you try to twist the things it say? it say she could take out any opponent thats all it never stated that she did it
Im not trying to twist anything around, as far as im concerned that wiki quote implies that she has knocked out Thor.
But Marvel.com says she has knocked out opponents as strong as Thor but NOT Thor.
Marvel.com
Her mastery of the Priests' martial arts, which focus on manipulation of nerve endings and pressure points, has enabled her to knock out beings as powerful as Thor. ..that means she has knocked out beings as powerful as Thor but NOT Thor himself.
The bio isnt wrong I just did not read it properly.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not trying to twist anything around, as far as im concerned that wiki quote implies that she has knocked out Thor.But Marvel.com says she [B] has
knocked out opponents as strong as Thor but NOT Thor.Marvel.com
Her mastery of the Priests' martial arts, which focus on manipulation of nerve endings and pressure points, has enabled her to knock out beings as powerful as Thor. ..that means she has knocked out beings as powerful as Thor but NOT Thor himself.
The bio isnt wrong I just did not read it properly. [/B]
powerful and durable different things
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
powerful and durable different things
You're nitpicking they probably mean somebody like Hercules. Depending on what context powerful can mean durability and the context is an opponent like Thor (class 100 strength). Oh yeah actually as far as I can remember she fought The Obliterator who is an Elder Of The Universe and she was able to hurt him with her fighting technique, but that was along time ago so I could be wrong.
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
the bio also say that she can take out any opponent than means anyone she wants.... do you brain? or do you believe everything you read like a zombie? use real feats not some bio from the web..
The bio says she has knocked out people as powerful as Thor im going to stick with that. Furthermore its all very well that I should use comic feats but when I do people scream PIS, thats why I use bios.
I also dont always use bios if you were paying attention in the Crossbones threads I also refered to the comics to. You are just latching onto what makes you feel good.
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
until i see a scan of that fight i really don't believe that she did it, and the bio itself never mentioned that she took out thor it just said that she could take out someone his leveli dont like to be the bad guy here but if you are going to debate and base everything on bio then back it up too
Well ok I admit its not claer wether she has knocked out Thor, but the bio clearly states that she has knocked out people as powerful as Thor. It is not vague and the fact that DC has stated that its true backs up that you can use bios.
Bios may get things wrong about how much a person can lift but not about events.
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
until i see a scan of that fight i really don't believe that she did it, and the bio itself never mentioned that she took out thor it just said that she could take out someone his level
Exactly! The whole point im trying to make is peak humans with sufficent skill can hurt class 100s it does not specifically have to be Thor.
so i said that all i want is just a scan where she does that , you dont have to give me one but i just would like to see one ... dude its not a war its a web debate .. and anyway i really find it unreal for a human with skills to take out class 100 characters and gods like thor with martial arts .. you know not everything thats in comics can be counted ... ahhmmm wolverine ahhhmmmmm
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
so i said that all i want is just a scan where she does that , you dont have to give me one but i just would like to see one ... dude its not a war its a web debate .. and anyway i really find it unreal for a human with skills to take out class 100 characters and gods like thor with martial arts .. you know not everything thats in comics can be counted ... ahhmmm wolverine ahhhmmmmm
Yeah you're right. But the thing is this you cant say its PIS when the people who have created the character have specified that the person can do it. It sux but those are the rules.
Thats why im using the bio cos one person I was debating with was not having any scans.