Originally posted by DarkCrawlerThank you.
Err, I'm not sure if you are following me here.If someone says that Namor can't take Human Torch's supernova,
I won't say that "Well, Ultimate Namor took Ultimate Human Torch's supernova, are you saying that entire Ultimate Fantastic Four is PIS?"
Because it really doesn't make the other guys point any less valid...
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Originally posted by galan7777777
you are greatly twisting what i said, i said that Ult cap took the hulks punches, in response to someone saying that one punch from the thing would kill him
But why would you mention entirely different character taking entirely different character's punches? How would it help you in proving that 616 Cap would be able to take 616 Thing's punches?
Originally posted by galan7777777
and then someone else said that this event was pis, and i said "then i guess the whole ultimates is PIS"
That's entirely different thing.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I think the matter of whether or not Thing will KO Cap with various punches is irrelevant. We all agree that Thing has the ability to KO Cap, but will he really have the chance ? Caps superior combat skills and agility, mean that most of Things punches are going to be hitting the shield. The real question is whether or not Cap can actually KO Benn ? I believe he can.
how can captain america ko the thing?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI won't say that "Well, Ultimate Namor took Ultimate Human Torch's supernova, are you saying that entire Ultimate Fantastic Four is PIS?"
Because it really doesn't make the other guys point any less valid...
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I think it wouild be a perfectly valid point, if the charcetrs being compared where of simillar power levels, as they claerly are in this circumstance. It clearly shows a possibility of what may happen, and its something you done on various ocassions.
Does Caps shield absorb momentum too (real question)? because even IF he blocked a relatively strong punch by thing, the sheer might it would require to keep the shield from slamming into his body is well beyond his reach, atleast logically. The force from blocking it would still dazwe him, and possible break something
dazwe, lol, i ment daze
Also im curious, i think some of the arguements are getting a little lost. are some of you here argueing for cap as a majority? or what cap is capable of doing to thing?
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterplease, the way you interpret and twist around what others have said to in some way make yourself look smart amazes me....... point is that cap was NOT KO'd by hulk with one punch..... do you disagree with this?
So you favor the optimal condition that supports your argument. This is a forum for debating my friend, what you are doing is attempting to avoid the argument because you can't bring sufficient reason to the contrary when your point is being challenged.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterthis is another example of you twisting my words...... show me where i said that cap took 5 full force punches....... all i said was he took 5 blows..... dont make things up, it just makes you look worse
5 full force hits that have given characters like Iron Man trouble, you have problems with logic then.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterhow so? by saying that cap wasnt KO'd by hulk in one punch as shown on pannel?
You've already contradicted yourself once, let's not do it again.
Originally posted by Tha C-Mastercant interpret things? so are you attempting to say that Hulk did KO cap? 😆
Coming from a person who can't interpret things on "pannel" 😆
Originally posted by H. S. 6
I agree with you, in that Cap would not be able to exploit Thing's pressure points. I was simply pointing out that Thing does, indeed, have pressure points.
Not like a normal human 😐
That makes as much sense as Wolverine fans saying that Wolveirne can stab Ben in the nerves 🙄
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I think it wouild be a perfectly valid point, if the charcetrs being compared where of simillar power levels, as they claerly are in this circumstance.
Ultimate Cap is not 616 Cap, and Ultimate Hulk certainly is not 616 Thing...🤨
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
It clearly shows a possibility of what may happen, and its something you done on various ocassions.
Actually, I have never compared anything like that. I've compared Namor etc. taking punches from character that has been proven to be stronger then aforementioned character.
I have never said that because Ultimate Namor can take Ultimate Human Torch's supernova, that means that 616 can do the same to 616 Human Torch's supernova...
Or that because Ultimate Colossus can defeat Ultimate Thor, 616 Colossus would be able to defeat 616 Thor....
Have good luck finding an example of me comparing entirely different character doing something to another entirely different character when discussing another different character, though.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerhave you read any of what i said...... i never once talked about 616 cap or compared them in any way..... i simply said that ULT cap WAS capable of taking such punches
Ultimate Cap is not 616 Cap, and Ultimate Hulk certainly is not 616 Thing...🤨Actually, I have never compared anything like that. I've compared Namor etc. taking punches from character that has been proven to be stronger then aforementioned character.
I have never said that because Ultimate Namor can take Ultimate Human Torch's supernova, that means that 616 can do the same to 616 Human Torch's supernova...
Or that because Ultimate Colossus can defeat Ultimate Thor, 616 Colossus would be able to defeat 616 Thor....
Have good luck finding an example of me comparing entirely different character doing something to another entirely different character when discussing another different character, though.
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This is sad that you cannot comprehend, I am talking about the forum, I already mentioned earlier that I wasn't disputing it happening.
Originally posted by galan7777777My point was that it didn't happen in the forum. Attempt to follow my breadcrumbs, I know it must be hard for you.
please, the way you interpret and twist around what others have said to in some way make yourself look smart amazes me....... point is that cap was NOT KO'd by hulk with one punch..... do you disagree with this?
Originally posted by galan7777777
this is another example of you twisting my words...... show me where i said that cap took 5 full force punches....... all i said was he took 5 blows..... dont make things up, it just makes you look worse
Once again I'm talking about in the forum where the conditions are opitmal and are more logic-based.
Originally posted by galan7777777
how so? by saying that cap wasnt KO'd by hulk in one punch as shown on pannel?
When did I say he wasn't? Go point his out for me, I said it wouldn't happen in the forum under optimal conditions? Do you know what a theoretical match is? It means in theory or practice.
Originally posted by galan7777777This is sad, you can't read what's on "pannel" much less what's in front of you. 😆
cant interpret things? so are you attempting to say that Hulk did KO cap? 😆
Originally posted by R.O.T. YahmanIt's funny how you misinterpreted what I said... you started this by sideswiping a point not made at you and addressing me, so when I address your point I'm over "infalted"?
Its funny how you quoted the post that i intended for the overall forum then .... 😉
Hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterReally sounds like a copout to avoid an argument.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Ultimate Cap is not 616 Cap, and Ultimate Hulk certainly is not 616 Thing...🤨
You can beat around my point all night, but all in honesty i believe you know you're 'pissing into the wind'. The point is, to compare the thread fight to an ulterior situation involving similarly powered characters is perfectly valid, and done often by many (Including yourself) forum users.
Originally posted by galan7777777
have you read any of what i said...... i never once talked about 616 cap or compared them in any way..... i simply said that ULT cap WAS capable of taking such punches
But why would you even mention Ultimate Cap when discussing 616 Cap's durability, as response if 616 Cap could take 616 Thing's punches?