Originally posted by thedude1948
If Strange could simply be erased from the universe, I think some of the omnipotent beings he has fought would have done it.Strange vs Crazy Wanda? hmm
Those Scans you posted were from BEFORE House of M.
They were BEFORE even the House of M preludes.
Wanda had not developed her powers fully at this stage.
During the Preludes we realize she's getting stronger.
In HOM #1, is the first time Wanda shows power on a Universal scale.
In HOM #7 Strange was around her the entire issue and didn't DARE make a move against her, infact, he was distracting her, in order to give Hawkeye a sneak shot.
Even Wanda's kid, that she herself created from nothing, talks down to Strange
Dr Strange's friends are being killed right outside and Strange does Not dare to do anything about it.
And Wanda is controlling the whole mess subconsciously
Hawk Eye shot an arrow through Wanda's heart, and 2 seconds later its as though it never happened.
Then Wanda Remakes the Universe again, by having it blow up in her face and then Recreating it.
So again, Strange gets blinked away.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Those Scans you posted were from BEFORE House of M.They were BEFORE even the House of M preludes.
Wanda had not developed her powers fully at this stage.
During the Preludes we realize she's getting stronger.
In HOM #1, is the first time Wanda shows power on a Universal scale.
In HOM #7 Strange was around her the entire issue and didn't DARE make a move against her, infact, he was distracting her, in order to give Hawkeye a sneak shot.
Even Wanda's kid, that she herself created from nothing, talks down to Strange
Dr Strange's friends are being killed right outside and Strange does Not dare to do anything about it.
And Wanda is controlling the whole mess subconsciously
Hawk Eye shot an arrow through Wanda's heart, and 2 seconds later its as though it never happened.
Then Wanda Remakes the Universe again, by having it blow up in her face and then Recreating it.
So again, Strange gets blinked away.
So Either wanda is as powerful as the IG or more Powerful than The IG, or Strange stalemating the IG was pure PIS. He had even more time to prep for wanda and was scared of her. So which is it? Was wanda more powerful than the IG?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So Either wanda is as powerful as the IG or more so, or strange stalemating the IG was pure PIS.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So how come people keep saying he stalemated the IG like he fought the actual power of the IG?
Sweetie sometimes when someone likes a character so much they become a fanboy. Fanboys don't sleep or eat they just masturbate to their favorite character and make shit up. It's how we lost your father.weep
Originally posted by Mr Master
Those Scans you posted were from BEFORE House of M.They were BEFORE even the House of M preludes.
Wanda had not developed her powers fully at this stage.
During the Preludes we realize she's getting stronger.
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.So again, Strange gets blinked away.
Strange didnt have or utilize any of his artifacts during the HOM.
Also Strange gets blinked away? you mean like the times the In-betweener, Living Tribunal, and Death did?..... oh wait.....
Originally posted by thedude1948
Strange didnt have or utilize any of his artifacts during the HOM.Also Strange gets blinked away? you mean like the times the In-betweener, Living Tribunal, and Death did?..... oh wait.....
No. Just like himself.
Wanda gave every being on Earth the ability to make their Wishes become Reality.
Xavier's
Xavier thinks he's Dreaming at first
Here Gaby tells him she's existing in another Reality simultaneously, (because of Wanda)
Spiderman's
All the Xmen's really, but I'm not going to bother posting them all, you get the point.
Genis-Vell's
And on and on...and Again, Wanda gave THEM the Power to shape their own Dreams, (Without THEM even noticing)
In conclusion, Wanda was undefeatable, and ended up creating a plot device, to defeat herself in the form of:
Layla was able to bring back the memories that Wanda took away from the World
Dr Strange was one of the many, that NEEDED Layla's Help
And like I said, Wanda Created Layla Miller
Wanda did effect Strange with reality warping, but they werent battling eachother at the time. In this thread they are both going head to head and Strange is given prep, a totally different scenario than HOM.
What is Wanda going to do with her 2 1/2 hrs of prep, play with her children probably. She is crazy, she admits she cant control her power, Prep is useless to her.
Strange will probably use his prep to gather all of his artifacts and talismans which makes as much of a difference as Reed Richards with or without prep in a fight.
Strange has also taken reality warping attacks in a battle that are as powerful as anything Wanda can do, and has shrugged them off.
HOM Wanda > Strange not realizing he is being attacked by her or Strange With no prep.
Strange with prep > HOM Wanda.
Ok, let's all look at what's wrong with House of M before we...well, you, Mr.Master, decide it's worth it's weight in dog farts, shall we?
#1. Strange says he can't erase minds in HoM. But, in fact, he's done it at least 30 times before.
#2. Strange is caught in an illusion. First off, impossible. You see, that little thing 'round his neck? Yeah, it makes illusions useless. But, because HoM was PIS, they didn't add that in. Eye of Agg'=Reality Gem. Believe it.
#3.Strange makes NO attempt to rewind time, yet he can on a whim.
#4.Strange hardly has 5 full sentences during the whole damn HoM! Seeing he's the worlds most powerful human, you'd think he'd at least try something, am I right?
Again, HoM is akin to the Onslaught Saga, which is doodoo. It was a plot driven comic made to try and beat Infinite Crisis in sales. Doodoo indeed.
You say Wanda's power is a universal scale, but that's small 'taters. Strange's is on a multiversal scale. Wanda has never "blinked" away a universe....but Strange HAS. An entire dimension...gone because he was pissed.
Originally posted by Mr Master
When Dr Strange is able to warp just a pocket Universe, he may get her attention for 5 seconds.
Originally posted by Validus
Except Strange never stalemated the IG. Warlock used each gem separately. It's still impressive as hell for Strange but not the same as stalemating the full power of the IG.
If Strange had prep against Uber Wanda, he'd win or at least stalemate. Why? Because she is very powerful, but not very talented. He'd end up out battling her and making her destroy herself, or at the very least steal her power like he has infinites and even Eternity.
Originally posted by long pig
Ok, let's all look at what's wrong with House of M before we...well, you, Mr.Master, decide it's worth it's weight in dog farts, shall we?#1. Strange says he can't erase minds in HoM. But, in fact, he's done it at least 30 times before.
#2. Strange is caught in an illusion. First off, impossible. You see, that little thing 'round his neck? Yeah, it makes illusions useless. But, because HoM was PIS, they didn't add that in. Eye of Agg'=Reality Gem. Believe it.
#3.Strange makes NO attempt to rewind time, yet he can on a whim.
#4.Strange hardly has 5 full sentences during the whole damn HoM! Seeing he's the worlds most powerful human, you'd think he'd at least try something, am I right?
Again, HoM is akin to the Onslaught Saga, which is doodoo. It was a plot driven comic made to try and beat Infinite Crisis in sales. Doodoo indeed.
You say Wanda's power is a universal scale, but that's small 'taters. Strange's is on a multiversal scale. Wanda has never "blinked" away a universe....but Strange HAS. An entire dimension...gone because he was pissed.
Pardon? Pocket Dimensions? Strange has pocket dimensions inside each one of his cells. He creates them just for things like shunting people.
He did both. He stalemated each gem and then stalemated all of them together.
If Strange had prep against Uber Wanda, he'd win or at least stalemate. Why? Because she is very powerful, but not very talented. He'd end up out battling her and making her destroy herself, or at the very least steal her power like he has infinites and even Eternity.
Didn't you say so yourself if it's HoM Wanda he loses?😕
Originally posted by LethalFemmeNo, if it's SW and Circe he probably loses.
Didn't you say so yourself if it's HoM Wanda he loses?😕
Strange DID beat Uber Wanda before anyways, he beat her during the time she was changing the planet around. HoM Wanda beats anyone because of the fact the writers were in a hurry to finish and comic, not trying to know Strange.
Originally posted by long pig
No, if it's SW and Circe he probably loses.Strange DID beat Uber Wanda before anyways, he beat her during the time she was changing the planet around. HoM Wanda beats anyone because of the fact the writers were in a hurry to finish and comic, not trying to know Strange.
Okay but, when you originally posted you never said probably if it was HoM SW you just said he loses but, you said he for sure loses at Odin. Either way how do you think he does against each team after Odin?
Originally posted by thedude1948
Wanda did effect Strange with reality warping, but they werent battling eachother at the time. In this thread they are both going head to head and Strange is given prep, a totally different scenario than HOM.
Not exactly.
Strange's Magic has NO effect on Wanda.
Strange had Prep and his enchanted ITEMS during HOM
It did him little good...
"My DUTIES as Master of the Mystic Arts, to Protect this World from an Attack like This"
Even when he employed Spells, they would Not work to his design
That's Wanda controlling HIS Power.
