Dr. Strange Runs the Prep Gauntlet

Originally posted by thedude1948
What is Wanda going to do with her 2 1/2 hrs of prep, play with her children probably. She is crazy, she admits she cant control her power, Prep is useless to her.

Maybe she'll just explode the Universe on top of Strange's head, and make another one a Second later where the Doctor does not exist.

"What's happening on 616"

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

Originally posted by thedude1948
Strange will probably use his prep to gather all of his artifacts and talismans which makes as much of a difference as Reed Richards with or without prep in a fight.

As I showed you Strange had his toys, they didn't help him one bit.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Strange has also taken reality warping attacks in a battle that are as powerful as anything Wanda can do, and has shrugged them off.

When has Strange shrugged off a blast that can erase the Universe?

Originally posted by thedude1948
HOM Wanda > Strange not realizing he is being attacked by her or Strange With no prep.
Strange with prep > HOM Wanda.

I think I proved Wanda blinks, and a New Reality appears and Strange isn't part of it.

Originally posted by long pig
Ok, let's all look at what's wrong with House of M before we...well, you, Mr.Master, decide it's worth it's weight in dog farts, shall we?

I can tell you right from the get, nothing you said here made me raise a brow.

We shall...

Originally posted by long pig
#1. Strange says he can't erase minds in HoM. But, in fact, he's done it at least 30 times before.

Never read that.

And actually it was Strange along with Emma who protected a few heroes from losing their memories

Originally posted by long pig
#2. Strange is caught in an illusion. First off, impossible. You see, that little thing 'round his neck? Yeah, it makes illusions useless. But, because HoM was PIS, they didn't add that in. Eye of Agg'=Reality Gem. Believe it.

Illusion?

And maybe that "little thing" doesn't protect him against Wanda's Power or influence.

Originally posted by long pig
#3.Strange makes NO attempt to rewind time, yet he can on a whim.

Strange's Magic had NO affect on Wanda or her Powers, so he couldn't re-write what she made into Reality.

Originally posted by long pig
#4.Strange hardly has 5 full sentences during the whole damn HoM! Seeing he's the worlds most powerful human, you'd think he'd at least try something, am I right?

How long has it been since you read HOM?

Strange is an integral part of the story.

Remember there are many Tie ins. (You must of missed those)

Originally posted by long pig
Again, HoM is akin to the Onslaught Saga, which is doodoo. It was a plot driven comic made to try and beat Infinite Crisis in sales. Doodoo indeed.

Ok...

Your opinion.

Originally posted by long pig
You say Wanda's power is a universal scale, but that's small 'taters. Strange's is on a multiversal scale.

😆

Show me where Strange has ever affected Universes simultaneously?

Tell me the issue, I'll post the scans for you, since I have every appearance made by Strange in Marvel scanned.

He happens to be one of my favorite characters.

Originally posted by long pig
Wanda has never "blinked" away a universe....

Actually she Destroyed and Remade the 616 Universe nearly 10 times during HOM.

After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything

Wanda SURVIVES Universal Obliteration and Remakes the Universe one last time

That's correct, a Flash....and a New Universe appears

This is one of almost Ten times.

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)

Originally posted by long pig
but Strange HAS. An entire dimension...gone because he was pissed.

Again, direct me to the issues where Strange is rubbing out Universes?

Or do you mean something extremely smaller using that term, "dimension"?

Originally posted by long pig
Pardon? Pocket Dimensions? Strange has pocket dimensions inside each one of his cells. He creates them just for things like shunting people.

Pocket dimesions are FAR smaller than pocket Universes.

Strange has Never created a Universe or a pocket Universe.

[QUOTE=7509244]Originally posted by long pig
[B] He did both. He stalemated each gem and then stalemated all of them together.

Dude, you must be joking.

You need to refresh your memory on that.

Cropping the Scans as we interact.

Originally posted by long pig
If Strange had prep against Uber Wanda, he'd win or at least stalemate. Why? Because she is very powerful, but not very talented. He'd end up out battling her and making her destroy herself, or at the very least steal her power like he has infinites and even Eternity.

Pure Speculation.

On Panel his Power had Zero affect on Wanda.

In fact Wanda was controlling his Power, and Wanda was even making him more powerful than he usualy is.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In conclusion, Wanda was undefeatable, and ended up creating a plot device, to defeat herself in the form of:

Layla Miller

Layla was able to bring back the memories that Wanda took away from the World

Dr Strange was one of the many, that NEEDED Layla's Help

And like I said, Wanda Created Layla Miller

Originally posted by Validus
Quick thing here. Wanda didn't create Layla. She existed prior to HOM as seen in X-Factor.

I should have cleared that up, for the meticulous.

This isn't the original Layla Miller, it's a creation of Wanda's

The Original Layla is a psychic, Wanda's Layla is operating with whole New Power

"Your Psychic Powers, are psychic but Not psychic, Not like anything I've ever seen"

"Girly WHAT are you?"....."She AIN'T Human"

"I never felt anything like that"....."None of us have"

This isn't surprising, during her Universal warps (almost 10) Heroes were appearing and disappearing

Like Captain America, who Never became CA

The long dead Groucho Marx was the Mayor of Phoenix Arizona 😂

So everytime she warped creation, anything was possible....

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

Originally posted by long pig
Ok, let's all look at what's wrong with House of M before we...well, you, Mr.Master, decide it's worth it's weight in dog farts, shall we?

#1. Strange says he can't erase minds in HoM. But, in fact, he's done it at least 30 times before.

#2. Strange is caught in an illusion. First off, impossible. You see, that little thing 'round his neck? Yeah, it makes illusions useless. But, because HoM was PIS, they didn't add that in. Eye of Agg'=Reality Gem. Believe it.

#3.Strange makes NO attempt to rewind time, yet he can on a whim.

#4.Strange hardly has 5 full sentences during the whole damn HoM! Seeing he's the worlds most powerful human, you'd think he'd at least try something, am I right?

Again, HoM is akin to the Onslaught Saga, which is doodoo. It was a plot driven comic made to try and beat Infinite Crisis in sales. Doodoo indeed.

You say Wanda's power is a universal scale, but that's small 'taters. Strange's is on a multiversal scale. Wanda has never "blinked" away a universe....but Strange HAS. An entire dimension...gone because he was pissed.

Pardon? Pocket Dimensions? Strange has pocket dimensions inside each one of his cells. He creates them just for things like shunting people.

He did both. He stalemated each gem and then stalemated all of them together.

If Strange had prep against Uber Wanda, he'd win or at least stalemate. Why? Because she is very powerful, but not very talented. He'd end up out battling her and making her destroy herself, or at the very least steal her power like he has infinites and even Eternity.

I agree with... um, agree with... Mr. Pig.

From what I understand theres only one Layla. Wanda just altered her powerset to what we saw in HOM.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I should have cleared that up, for the meticulous.

This isn't the original Layla Miller, it's a creation of Wanda's

The Original Layla is a psychic, Wanda's Layla is operating with whole New Power

"Your Psychic Powers, are psychic but Not psychic, Not like anything I've ever seen"

"Girly WHAT are you?"....."She AIN'T Human"

"I never felt anything like that"....."None of us have"

This isn't surprising, during her Universal warps (almost 10) Heroes were appearing and disappearing

Like Captain America, who Never became CA

The long dead Groucho Marx was the Mayor of Phoenix Arizona 😂

So everytime she warped creation, anything was possible....

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

Alas, Mr. Master, you have been swayed by lies, deceptions and illusions of the X-titles.

It is truly a shame that you are not on the side of "Good".

Hehe.

nevermind

Originally posted by Validus
From what I understand theres only one Layla. Wanda just altered her powerset to what we saw in HOM.

What's your take on this?

First and for most, you seem to forget that Wanda had years of prep while her PIS power somehow seeped into everything. Any magic user with prep is a threat to a world and I can guarantee you if Strange had that amount of time, he could have done the exact same thing...but better.

Never read that.

And actually it was Strange along with Emma who protected a few heroes from losing their memories

That's another PIS moment. Strange needs no Emma, he's her superior in telepathy. Again, bad writing for a bad comic.

Illusion?

And maybe that "little thing" doesn't protect him against Wanda's Power or influence.

Please, it's one of the most powerful objects in all the universe. It's power over illusions and minds is infinite.

Gateway, the mutant from Australia...his power was enough to see through her illusions without even trying. Check out the Hulk tie-in.

Gateway>Wanda?

Strange's Magic had NO affect on Wanda or her Powers, so he couldn't re-write what she made into Reality.

His power not working on her is pure PIS, why? Because Strange in top shape would have ended this before it began.

Show me where Strange has ever affected Universes simultaneously?

Plus, you realize he gets his power from countless other universes of the multiverse, correct?

He happens to be one of my favorite characters.

Actually she Destroyed and Remade the 616 Universe nearly 10 times during HOM.

Or do you mean something extremely smaller using that term, "dimension"?

But all in all, Strange with prep would at LEAST stalemate crazy Wanda if it was written correctly. Written correctly mean: Taking into account the character's history of feats and NOT cropping powers to make the comic sale.

I won't lie, she's very powerful, a bit more powerful than he, but no where near as smart or as skilled in using such power.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
What's your take on this?

Originally posted by Validus
I'll just agree with lp. I don't know shit about Strange and I'm not about to pretend to.

Anything goes

Originally posted by Validus
I'll just agree with lp. I don't know shit about Strange and I'm not about to pretend to.

So you're pretty much useless?ermm

Originally posted by LethalFemme
So you're pretty much useless?ermm

Originally posted by LethalFemme
So you're pretty much useless?ermm

Originally posted by Validus
Yeah. Generally I don't like to debate mages.

Originally posted by kgkg
nice sig , banna , whatever u want to call it 😄

I like your too btw where is skeets I miss his ass?

Originally posted by Validus
Yeah. Generally I don't like to debate mages.

That's still better than what I do.😂

Originally posted by kgkg
what happend Lucid?

He's on vacation. I'm carrying the Aquaman torch in the meantime.

have you guys read Dr Strange part 01 of the Oath yet?

I like your too btw where is skeets I miss his ass?