The U.S. Constitution Mentions Jesus Christ

At my university, most of the prefessors are. It's been adopted by the scholarly community here.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Indeed, I must admit I prefer seeing C.E. and B.C.E. in texts these days, it is good more historians are using it.

In some ways it doesn't. To me it does.

Originally posted by Alliance
At my university, most of the prefessors are. It's been adopted by the scholarly community here.

Where do you go?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Indeed, I must admit I prefer seeing C.E. and B.C.E. in texts these days, it is good more historians are using it.

But it still uses the Christian zero date.

Originally posted by Alliance
But it still uses the Christian zero date.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

Adam_PoE is there a reason why you did not provide links for your alleged quotes so that they could be investigated? I always provide links for everyone so that they can verify what I post. Just curious.

Excerpt from George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Day Proclamation * * (issued 3 October 1789)

Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor, and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanks-giving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th. day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be. That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks, for his kind care and protection of the People of this country previous to their becoming a Nation, for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his providence, which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war, for the great degree of tranquillity, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed, for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted, for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions, to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually, to render our national government a blessing to all the People, by constantly being a government of wise, just and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed, to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shown kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord. To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and Us, and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

"As I have heard since my arriv'l at this place, a circumstantial acct. of my death and dying speech, I take this early oppertunity of contradicting both, and of assuring you that I now exist and appear in the land of the living by the miraculous care of Providence, that protected me beyond all human expectation; I had 4 Bullets through my Coat, and two Horses shot under me, and yet escaped unhurt." --George Washington in a letter to John Augustine Washington on 18 July 1755 *

Questionable 'Quotes'
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy." --attributed to George Washington (no sources found, not even a date)

"I am sure that never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs, than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that Agency, which was so often manifested during our Revolution, or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them." --attributed to George Washington on 11 March 1792 (not found) *

"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics." --sometimes attributed to George Washington (no citations found; doesn't sound like GW)

http://s93614334.onlinehome.us/religion/George_Washington/

Originally posted by Strangelove
That's my only gripe: why change it if nothing changes but the label

Because words are powerfull. They no longer mention a god, they are simly based on the most widely used histoical method of measuring time.

JesusIsAlive... Off the top of my head, the last one Adam POE posted about John Adams is from the 'Treaty of Tripoli' ratified in 1797. I am certain the rest are valid and he just didn't make them up.

Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion ; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

I did a quick google for "Treaty of Tripoli", there are hundreds of sites that have the treaty as it was/is written, here is one of them if you must see it somewhere else to be valid in your eyes.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html

As far as what you posted about George Washington, where do you see him mention Jesus? If you read up on George, you will see that he is closer to being a Deist then a Christian, as were many of the founding fathers. They believed in a greater spiritual guiding force, almost in a Star Wars "The Force' kind of way. But they were also politicians, and politicians know that they must appease the masses so that is why the mentioning of "The Lord" can be found in their speeches.

Originally posted by Alliance
Because words are powerfull. They no longer mention a god, they are simly based on the most widely used histoical method of measuring time.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Adam_PoE is there a reason why you did not provide links for your alleged quotes so that they could be investigated? I always provide links for everyone so that they can verify what I post. Just curious.

Works Cited

Adams, James and George Washington. “Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11.” 1796-7.

Franklin, Benjamin. Benjamin Franklin, A Biography in his Own Words. 1758.

Jefferson, Thomas. Letter to James Madison. 1823 APR 11.

Madison, James. Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments. 1785.

Pain, Thomas Robert. The Age of Reason. 1795.

Washington, George. The Writings of George Washington. 12 vols. 1834.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Adam_PoE is there a reason why you did not provide links for your alleged quotes so that they could be investigated? I always provide links for everyone so that they can verify what I post. Just curious.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Signers of the U.S. Constitution

Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.

In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

G. Washington-Presidt. and deputy from Virginia

New Hampshire: John Langdon, Nicholas Gilman

Massachusetts: Nathaniel Gorham, Rufus King

Connecticut: Wm: Saml. Johnson, Roger Sherman

New York: Alexander Hamilton

New Jersey: Wil: Livingston, David Brearly, Wm. Paterson, Jona: Dayton

Pennsylvania: B. Franklin, Thomas Mifflin, Robt. Morris, Geo. Clymer, Thos. FitzSimons, Jared Ingersoll, James Wilson, Gouv Morris

Delaware: Geo: Read, Gunning Bedford jun, John Dickinson, Richard Bassett, Jaco: Broom

Maryland: James McHenry, Dan of St Thos. Jenifer, Danl Carroll

Virginia: John Blair--, James Madison Jr.

North Carolina: Wm. Blount, Richd. Dobbs Spaight, Hu Williamson

South Carolina: J. Rutledge, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, Charles Pinckney, Pierce Butler

Georgia: William Few, Abr Baldwin

The U.S. Constitution does not mention Buddha, Allah, or any other god. But the Constitution signers acknowledge the Lord. There was no need to say, "...in the year of our Lord ...." for the Constitution to be binding. [/B]

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Psalm 14:1
The fool has said in his heart,“There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.

Anyone that truly wants to know if God exists can know but there is something that you must do first: you must--imperative necessity--humble yourself. This will probably eliminate 99 and 9/10 percent of those reading this thread. God will reveal Himself to you if you humble yourself before Him. Humility is not waiting for the chance to vent what you have to say at the first chance someone like me writes something like this. Humility starts with an attitude that concedes that you don't know it all or have all of the answers and that in God's eyes you are nothing. The simple fact of the matter is that God wants you all to know Him but it must be on His terms. You must humble yourself. Humble yourself before God, tell Him that you are sorry for your sins. Ask God to forgive you for all of your sins. Finally, ask Jesus Christ of Nazareth to save you, and wash away all of your sins in His precious blood. I know what I have written may not make sense to you right now, but you must take care of the sin issue. Your sins have separated you from God. Once you are born again the Holy Spirit live in your spirit and He will began to reveal the Father to you. The Holy Spirit living on the inside of you--in the inner man/woman--will bear witness with your spirit that you are now--after your sins are washed away--a child of God and the Bible is true. The things of God will began to make sense to you once you are saved.

Recap:

1) Humble your self before God.
2) Ask God to forgive you for all of your sins, and then ask Jesus Chrst of Nazareth to save you from your sins.
3)Pick up Bible and the Gospel According to John (this gospel account emphasizes the deity of Christ Jesus.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You're mixing Truth with error. Evolution and God are diametrically opposed. They do not coexist. God has declared by His Word how He created the Heavens (i.e. space, atmosphere) and the earth: by His words.

As far as mechanics here is how God did it:

[B]Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

Psalm 33:6
By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.

God speaks and things "be" "exist" or "come into being." That explains why there are no transitional fossil forms. All life came into being suddenly or instantaneously.

More examples of God speaking things into existence:

Genesis 1:3
Then God said,“Let there be light”; and there was light.

Genesis 1:6
Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”

Genesis 1:9 Then God said , “ Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.

Genesis 1:11
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so.

Genesis 1:14
Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;

Genesis 1:20
Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.”

Genesis 1:24
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so.

God has explicitly stated (in no uncertain terms) how He created the universe (He did so through speaking) so why even bring up a hypothetical like evolution in reference to God creating? Based on the record that we have of humanity's origin it is clear that God did not want to use an inferior method like evolution. Evolution is a protracted process that supposedly occurs over eons of years. But everything that God does has a spiritual import and significance. For example, human beings are the only creatures that are made in God's image. No other creature has this claim to fame. Evolution presupposes that all organisms evolved from lower life forms into higher life forms. This process runs counter to God's process of creating creatures that are in His image. God's image is not that of a lower life form that evolved into a higher life form. So right off of the bat this methodology will not work. God wanted creatures that were made in His image and that were made fully mature and ready to reproduce from inception. [/B]

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't accuse you of asking me to question God's power or motives, did I?

Here is what I am trying to convey: God has explicitly stated (in no uncertain terms) how He created the universe (He did so through speaking) so why even bring up a hypothetical like evolution in reference to God creating?

You said, "...if God created evolution, it would also be by Gods words...."

But He didn't create evolution. Based on the record that we have of humanity's origin it is clear that God did not want to use an inferior method like evolution. Evolution is a protracted process that supposedly occurs over eons of years. But everything that God does has a spiritual import and significance. For example, human beings are the only creatures that are made in God's image. No other creature has this claim to fame. Evolution presupposes that all organisms evolved from lower life forms into higher life forms. This process runs counter to God's process of creating creatures that are in His image. God's image is not that of a lower life form that evolved into a higher life form. So right off of the bat this methodology will not work. God wanted creatures that were made in His image and that were made fully mature and ready to reproduce from inception.

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Originally posted by lord xyz
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Originally posted by lord xyz
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Originally posted by lord xyz
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Originally posted by lord xyz
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