Re: Re: Columbine Rejects God In Favor of Darwin's Theory
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Oh, and here is a wild idea - do you think gun control might have made a difference?
Those two idiots could have just as easily stolen a dump-truck and drove it into the cafeteria. People have been killing each other for centuries, if it's not firearms, it's something else.
Jesus Christ is Lord. Do you want eternal life? Then admit that you are a sinner, then ask Jesus Christ to give you life eternal. Jesus does not condemn you, He died for you. Will you accept Jesus now? This good news is for anyone to take advantage of. God loves the world and gave His only Begotten Son, that whoever [this includes you] believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Christ is Lord. Do you want eternal life? Then admit that you are a sinner, then ask Jesus Christ to give you life eternal. Jesus does not condemn you, He died for you. Will you accept Jesus now? This good news is for anyone to take advantage of. God loves the world and gave His only Begotten Son, that whoever [this includes you] believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
So... in failing to support the unsupportable claim teaching evolution leads to immorality or crime you fall back on preprepared "Do you want eternal life?" statements? Statements that serve no purpose but to peddle you view of the world which, in light of this thread, is not on solid ground?
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So... in failing to support the unsupportable claim teaching evolution leads to immorality or crime you fall back on preprepared "Do you want eternal life?" statements? Statements that serve no purpose but to peddle you view of the world which, in light of this thread, is not on solid ground?
He is a little kooky. Kind of like a little kid even.
Originally posted by Marchello
*["JIA was raised like much of us here.....................It will only take time for him to see......."]***See what?
Marchello
See that these claims are clearly absurd? Something the rest of us already see? And that it does his cause no good to promote them?
He is a little kooky. Kind of like a little kid even.
But not in a cool Adam's Family kind of way.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Christ is Lord. Do you want eternal life? Then admit that you are a sinner, then ask Jesus Christ to give you life eternal. Jesus does not condemn you, He died for you. Will you accept Jesus now? This good news is for anyone to take advantage of. God loves the world and gave His only Begotten Son, that whoever [this includes you] believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
how the hell does that have anything to do with this topic... that was pretty much worthless spam...
*["See that these claims are clearly absurd? Something the rest of us already see? And that it does his cause no good to promote them?"]
***Christians [such as JIA and I] are NOT here to "promote" anything. What we are here to do is to "proclaim" the "love of God" for fallen mankind in the Person of Jesus Christ the Lord. Too, you don't have to believe it...that is a choice only you can make...but that does not negate the fact that we, as His disciples, are obligated to tell you and others of His love for you and the mercy that He has extended to you in Christ Jesus.
The First chapter of the Book of Romans [i.e., Romans 1:16-32] best describes you and others who hold the Word of God in derision...it would do you well to read it...even if you don't believe it.
Marchello
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Christ is Lord. Do you want eternal life? Then admit that you are a sinner, then ask Jesus Christ to give you life eternal. Jesus does not condemn you, He died for you. Will you accept Jesus now? This good news is for anyone to take advantage of. God loves the world and gave His only Begotten Son, that whoever [this includes you] believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
So you basically gave up arguing your point...right?
Re: Columbine Rejects God In Favor of Darwin's Theory
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]The Repercussions of EvolutionViews: 197 Why does it matter that the unscientific farce called evolution is taught in our public schools? Please click below to find out (from www.pluggedinonline.com).
Repercussions of "Natural Selection"
By Frank Peretti...[It has been some time since] the tragic shootings at Columbine High School, where disturbed teens Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 13 people before taking their own lives. And [since the murders], people have been asking Why? Allow me to suggest one possibility which continues to remind me how important it is to help teenagers see the world—and each other—from God’s perspective.
On his Web page, Eric Harris listed many things he hated, but Darwin’s theory of evolution, particularly his suggestion of natural selection, stood in stark contrast. “YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE??? Natural SELECTION!,” he crowed. “It’s the best thing that ever happened to the Earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms … but it’s all natural! YES!”
On the day of the massacre, Eric Harris wore a white T-shirt with the inscription “Natural Selection” on the front. To some, that’s just a footnote in the coroner’s report. But when we pause to ponder it further, we are well on our way to explaining why that tragedy happened. Highly respected author and theologian Ravi Zacharias offered a profound insight in the days following the Littleton incident:
“When we have told our young people today that Naturalism is true—we have evolved from nothing more than some primordial slime; when we have told them objective moral values do not exist—you decide what is right and wrong for you; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate Designer; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate destiny; when we have told them that man is the measure of all things, that there is no transcendent basis on which to find out what life is about and what life’s goal is, why then are we surprised when we see the hell that is unleashed by that kind of philosophy?”
Ravi is right! I wish every teacher who indoctrinates his or her students with Darwinian
evolution, pawning off unproven theories as fact, could be shown Harris’ bloodstained T-shirt. Remember the old movie Inherit the Wind, in which Christians were portrayed as bigoted nincompoops for opposing the theories of evolution? I wonder if the makers of that movie (and a host of films similar to it) might change their minds if they were called upon to survey the carnage in the Columbine High School library April 20, 1999. Oh, we’ve inherited the wind, all right—and a lot more.It’s all perfectly logical: If evolution is true, then there is no God. If there is no God, then there is no fixed, external source of truth and morality. If there is no fixed, external source of truth and morality, then truth and morality are left up to the individual. If the individual judges that killing all the “stupid and weak organisms” in his life is justified and right, then by what basis can we question his judgment? He’s only following the moral compass evolution provides. The question is not “Why did the tragedy at Columbine happen?,” but rather, “Why shouldn’t it have happened?”
With God rejected, morality becomes arbitrary. The rights and dignity of others become secondary. Unbridled violence by a Hitler or a Harris, to get what he wants, to guard what is his, or to seek revenge, becomes a perfectly logical alternative.
On the other hand, if a personal, loving Creator God does exist and rule this universe, then we have in Him a transcendent source for meaning, value, sanctity and dignity, not to mention a fixed and objective point of reference for determining right and wrong—God’s Word, the Bible (for starters, Luke 10:27 and Matt. 7:12). If we attempt to remove God from our culture, from our value system, and from our thinking, then we have none of these things, and neither do our children.
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Author Frank Peretti has written best-selling novels including This Present Darkness and The Oath. This article is based on excerpts from his first nonfiction book, The Wounded Spirit, Published by W Publishing Group.
Is it mere coincidence that those innocent people lost their lives to those Darwinian Theory proponents? I say no. I believe that there is a correlation between what we believe and what we do. If we believe that we are just animals then perhaps this will lower our inhibitions to behave like animals.
http://www.oh-12.us/2006/10/03/columbine-father-school-shootings-due-to-teaching-evolution-abortion/
http://www.creationists.org/columbine.html
http://www.bcafa.com/article.php?story=20040316122604830 [/B]
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This is what i am missing all this week.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
So you basically gave up arguing your point...right?
Argue? I don't argue. I state my opinion and I support it, but I don't argue, or at least I do not attempt to argue.
I don't see it that way at all. I stated my point and then sat back to let you all plug in your opinions to see what you all think.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYou do realise that your posts only make sense to Fundamentalists like yourself?
[B]The Repercussions of EvolutionViews: 197 Why does it matter that the unscientific farce called evolution is taught in our public schools? Please click below to find out (from www.pluggedinonline.com).
Repercussions of "Natural Selection"
By Frank Peretti...[It has been some time since] the tragic shootings at Columbine High School, where disturbed teens Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 13 people before taking their own lives. And [since the murders], people have been asking Why? Allow me to suggest one possibility which continues to remind me how important it is to help teenagers see the world—and each other—from God’s perspective.
On his Web page, Eric Harris listed many things he hated, but Darwin’s theory of evolution, particularly his suggestion of natural selection, stood in stark contrast. “YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE??? Natural SELECTION!,” he crowed. “It’s the best thing that ever happened to the Earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms … but it’s all natural! YES!”
On the day of the massacre, Eric Harris wore a white T-shirt with the inscription “Natural Selection” on the front. To some, that’s just a footnote in the coroner’s report. But when we pause to ponder it further, we are well on our way to explaining why that tragedy happened. Highly respected author and theologian Ravi Zacharias offered a profound insight in the days following the Littleton incident:
“When we have told our young people today that Naturalism is true—we have evolved from nothing more than some primordial slime; when we have told them objective moral values do not exist—you decide what is right and wrong for you; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate Designer; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate destiny; when we have told them that man is the measure of all things, that there is no transcendent basis on which to find out what life is about and what life’s goal is, why then are we surprised when we see the hell that is unleashed by that kind of philosophy?”
Ravi is right! I wish every teacher who indoctrinates his or her students with Darwinian
evolution, pawning off unproven theories as fact, could be shown Harris’ bloodstained T-shirt. Remember the old movie Inherit the Wind, in which Christians were portrayed as bigoted nincompoops for opposing the theories of evolution? I wonder if the makers of that movie (and a host of films similar to it) might change their minds if they were called upon to survey the carnage in the Columbine High School library April 20, 1999. Oh, we’ve inherited the wind, all right—and a lot more.It’s all perfectly logical: If evolution is true, then there is no God. If there is no God, then there is no fixed, external source of truth and morality. If there is no fixed, external source of truth and morality, then truth and morality are left up to the individual. If the individual judges that killing all the “stupid and weak organisms” in his life is justified and right, then by what basis can we question his judgment? He’s only following the moral compass evolution provides. The question is not “Why did the tragedy at Columbine happen?,” but rather, “Why shouldn’t it have happened?”
With God rejected, morality becomes arbitrary. The rights and dignity of others become secondary. Unbridled violence by a Hitler or a Harris, to get what he wants, to guard what is his, or to seek revenge, becomes a perfectly logical alternative.
On the other hand, if a personal, loving Creator God does exist and rule this universe, then we have in Him a transcendent source for meaning, value, sanctity and dignity, not to mention a fixed and objective point of reference for determining right and wrong—God’s Word, the Bible (for starters, Luke 10:27 and Matt. 7:12). If we attempt to remove God from our culture, from our value system, and from our thinking, then we have none of these things, and neither do our children.
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Author Frank Peretti has written best-selling novels including This Present Darkness and The Oath. This article is based on excerpts from his first nonfiction book, The Wounded Spirit, Published by W Publishing Group.
Is it mere coincidence that those innocent people lost their lives to those Darwinian Theory proponents? I say no. I believe that there is a correlation between what we believe and what we do. If we believe that we are just animals then perhaps this will lower our inhibitions to behave like animals.
http://www.oh-12.us/2006/10/03/columbine-father-school-shootings-due-to-teaching-evolution-abortion/
http://www.creationists.org/columbine.html
http://www.bcafa.com/article.php?story=20040316122604830 [/B]
Originally posted by AllianceWell, I can't really say what percentage of the internet is useful recources because 90% is porn. And as for that last comment, it really depends on the country/state/county.
What do you think the percentage the total those websites are?I use the internet for research especially. But the vast majroity is crap and all these schools are not teaching children what a proper source is.
So they grow up ignorant.
Re: Re: Columbine Rejects God In Favor of Darwin's Theory
*["The height of idiocy..."]
***Your opinion is N/A
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*["...Afterwards they blamed it on everything from Marylin Manson to vidiogames to drugs and all the rest. The claim evolution did this? Absurd..."]
***Your opinion is N/A.
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*["...Oh, and here is a wild idea - do you think gun control might have made a difference?..."]
***Probably not. People kill people...guns are only the IMPLEMENTS people USE to KILL other people. The PROBLEM is NOT the GUNS...the PROBLEM is the "heart" of MAN...for it is desperately WICKED.
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*["...First of all - there is 0, read IT 0% of statistical evidence that shows evolution and its teaching leads to increases in crime, moral degradation, depression or anything else. Need me to say it again? 0%..."]
***Would you please show the evidence to support such a claim?...for claiming something is NOT evidence of anything.
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*["...Second - Christianity has existed for 2000 years - oh my, all manner of bad things continued through that time. Oh dear, what does that say about Christianity?..."]
***It says NOTHING pro or con. Judaism existed LONGER than Christianity...Zorastorism existed BEFORE Christianity...Islam has existed for over a THOUSAND years [need I say anything about the VIOLENCE committed by it's followers?]. All it says is that Christianity has been around for 2000 years...Nothing else.
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*["...Newsflash: Christians commit crime. Muslims commit crime. Atheists commit crimes. INDIVIDUALS commit crimes..."]
***That's right...and you've answered your own objection (above)!!!
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*["...religion is the cause of all war."]
***Nay...it is the DEPRAVITY of the "heart" of man that is responsible for war...for it is written: "The HEART is deceitful above all things, and desperately WICKED: who can know it?" [Jeremiah 17:9]
Marchello