Mostly Caucasian...In comics

Started by Alfheim14 pages

Originally posted by masterbruce
I do agree that it's really about business in the end.

For example, when they created Sentry, they could have made him a blond white guy, a dreadlocked black guy, or an spiked hair asian guy. In their opinion, having the blond white hair guy would probably be most popular with their fans, so they went that route. Nothing wrong with that, just plain ol capitalism.

Fair enough. *shrug* I dunno though in the article it states that black people are popular in modern culture you know music etc...why not comics?

Originally posted by masterbruce
I think i know what you mean even though i havent read cage.

It prob isnt the fact that he's speaking ebonics that gets you, its just that it doesn't feel authentic and a bit contrived.

Exactly but I havnet had an problem with New Avengers. As far as im concerned Brubaker is "black".

Originally posted by Alfheim
Fair enough. *shrug* I dunno though in the article it states that black people are popular in modern culture you know music etc...why not comics?

i think we as a society still associate certain roles with certain races, for a variety of reasons.

Originally posted by masterbruce
i think we as a society still associate certain roles with certain races, for a variety of reasons.

Fair enough....well anyway mavel where doing well for awhile they had quite a few decent black mutants but they killed them off. I hope they make some more. 🙁

btw, I'm asian, for anyone who's wondering

I like Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Wolverine, etc...and don't think of them as 'white' characters

however, I do wish there would be ONE cool and powerful asian superhero, seeing as how asians are like 1/4th of the world lol

a guy can dream...

Originally posted by masterbruce
btw, I'm asian, for anyone who's wondering

I like Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Wolverine, etc...and don't think of them as 'white' characters

however, I do wish there would be ONE cool and powerful asian superhero, seeing as how asians are like 1/4th of the world lol

a guy can dream...

Exactly! Thats what im talking about, you as asian person feel a bit left out and wish there were more asian characters you could look up to right? Not unreasonable. Its nice for a change because it seems that on this board that black people care more about ethnic characters than asians do....I just thought it was a little strange.

I dont see Captain America or other characters as white either but somtimes I feel abit miffed that they arent that many cool black characters.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Its nice for a change because it seems that on this board that black people care more about ethnic characters than asians do....I just thought it was a little strange.

I think that's because blacks think of themselves as Americans whereas many Asians don't (I do). So blacks think, gee I'm an America, so why aren't there more blacks in American comics.

Whereas asians realize they're more foreigners, so they don't have expectation of being in comics, pop culture, etc...although it's changing.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I think that's because blacks think of themselves as Americans whereas many Asians don't (I do). So blacks think, gee I'm an America, so why aren't there more blacks in American comics.

Exactly.

Originally posted by masterbruce

Whereas asians realize they're more foreigners, so they don't have expectation of being in comics, pop culture, etc...although it's changing.

Yeah I was thinking something like that...but I didnt want to say. Are you indian asian or chinese asian...well you know what I mean....damn that sounds racist. 😂

Originally posted by Alfheim
Exactly.

Yeah I was thinking something like that...but I didnt want to say. Are you indian asian or chinese asian...well you know what I mean....damn that sounds racist. 😂

chinese (or east-asian (china, korean, japan, etc), as opposed to southeastasian (india, pakistan))

Originally posted by masterbruce
chinese (or east-asian (china, korean, japan, etc), as opposed to southeastasian (india, pakistan))

Ok well theres Sunfire, Shang Chi...ermmm...Silver Samurai...Lady Deathstrike, Karma (used to be a member of the new mutants dont know where the **** she is now), Juibilee.

Theres this guy Temugin..badass...but I think they killed him basterds..

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1a5sp.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1b0ts.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1c1sp.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1d4sj.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1e2pm.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1f1yw.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1g6uk.jpg
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1h9ai.jpg

Yeah well I think there is even less than blacks but I would say in general there is more quality in the few asian characters you have.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok well theres Sunfire, Shang Chi...ermmm...Silver Samurai...Lady Deathstrike, Karma (used to be a member of the new mutants dont know where the **** she is now), Juibilee.

Theres this guy Temugin..badass...but I think they killed him basterds..

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1a5sp.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1b0ts.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1c1sp.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1d4sj.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1e2pm.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1f1yw.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1g6uk.jpg
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1h9ai.jpg

Yeah well I think there is even less than blacks but I would say in general there is more quality in the few asian characters you have.

thanks for the info, Temugin seems pretty cool.

Originally posted by masterbruce
thanks for the info, Temugin seems pretty cool.

Yeah I hope they bring him back.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Yeah well I think there is even less than blacks but I would say in general there is more quality in the few asian characters you have.

Karma quality? 😕

Astrid Bloom, Joanna Cargil, Storm, Black Panther, John Stewart, War Machine, Brother Voodoo are quality. 😬

I never liked Cecilia Reyes...or Bishop...so I'll give you those.

I think Nezhno is pretty cool as well...his attitude is IMO. For me anyway the attidude of the character is what makes a great comic book character.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Karma quality? 😕

Astrid Bloom, Joanna Cargil, Storm, Black Panther, Hal Jordan, War Machine, Brother Voodoo are quality. 😬

I never liked Cecilia Reyes...or Bishop...so I'll give you those.

I think Nezhno is pretty cool as well...his attitude is IMO.

wait...Hal Jordan is black???!! 😕 😱

Originally posted by masterbruce
wait...Hal Jordan is black???!! 😕 😱

John Stewart ... 😮

I was thinking John Stewart but typed Hal...for some reason. Fixed..

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Karma quality? 😕

Well it was ages ago I cant remember much.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Astrid Bloom, Joanna Cargil, Storm, Black Panther, John Stewart, War Machine, Brother Voodoo are quality. 😬

I never liked Cecilia Reyes...or Bishop...so I'll give you those.

I think Nezhno is pretty cool as well...his attitude is IMO. For me anyway the attidude of the character is what makes a great comic book character.

I never said they're werent any cool black characters but there seems to be alot of crap. Battlestar and Maxam to name a few.

Originally posted by Alfheim

I never said they're werent any cool black characters but there seems to be alot of crap. Battlestar and Maxam to name a few.

Well there are a lot of crap characters in comic-verse.(All ethnicities included)

They made Angel Salvadore cool...as well. She used to be a House Fly mutant now she has Fire and Ice powers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Salvadore

Joanna Cargil still a top fav though...especially now that she and Exodus are working with Sinister.

Still waiting for them to bring Astrid Bloom back.

Nezhno's attitude is what makes the character...for me...same can be said about Emma Frost and Dust. It's about personality. I would have liked to Sway from Deadly Genesis live.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well there are a lot of crap characters in comic-verse.(All ethnicities included)

They made Angel Salvadore cool...as well. She used to be a House Fly mutant know she has Fire and Ice powers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Salvadore

Joanna Cargil still my fav though...especially now that she and Exodus are working with Sinister.

Still waiting for them to bring Astrid Bloom back.

Bro im not collecting comics at the moment and I need to catch up, so that kinda went over my head. At one point I was collecting almost every marvel title execpt X-men. I had X-factor,Classic X-men, New Mutants (became X-force) but for some reason ive always had a thing about the X-men....its not even that I dont like the characters I think they're pretty cool...just got a thing...

P.S. I know black female characters are cool..I get it, ok?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro im not collecting comics at the moment and I need to catch up. At one point I was collecting almost every marvel title execpt X-men. I had X-factor,Classic X-men, New Mutants (became X-force) but for some reason ive always had a thing about the X-men....its not even that I dont like the characters I think they're pretty cool...just got a thing...

You should pick up the Messiah Complex Crossover...if you ever feel like reading X-Men again. It's starting soon...and should be pretty good since it's going to tear the team up.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You should pick up the Messiah Complex Crossover...if you ever feel like reading X-Men again. It's starting soon...and should be pretty good since it's going to tear the team up.

Ok...as I was saying...I know that female black characters in marvel have tended to be very good but the men suck. I see the subtle hint you were making. 😐