Kratos vs Sephiroth

>implies he can't use it canonically

:uvalaugh

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Impossible

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Yes it is, lol.

The characters refer to things occurring in their respective games and Dissidia explains how Chaos and Cosmos are multiverse-reality warping beings.

Not to mention Sephiroth specifically helps end the cycle so that he can return to his universe and kill Cloud.

Non-applicable. 👆

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is a self defeating argument. Lol.

No it isn't. Not having used it in canon doesn't mean he can't use it, as specified in the rules.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>implies he can't use it canonically

:uvalaugh

You know, there is proper quoting in this forum.

I never implied that, just that he hadn't.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And in the game Sephiroth is empowered as a champion of Chaos.

Non-applicable. 👆

No.

Lol@God toss, Sephiroth would passive mind read he was going to do it and easily dodge, while he supernovas Kratos to death. GG 2 EZ.

Dissidia is about as canon as FF characters in KH or J Stars Victory, until FF creators does their usual thing of altering stories to make it canon 😐

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Dissidia is about as canon as FF characters in KH or J Stars Victory, until FF creators does their usual thing of altering stories to make it canon 😐

Wrong. KH or J Stars Victory do not explain how they get into that universe nor are they treated as a FF series proper while they retain their personalities and mention things from their universe.

If you really want to get into it, read this: http://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2860

The game only accomplishes being truly canon to itself, otherwise it is going to remain just as canon as any other crossover game without a direct statement by the creator or reworking story lines in the series. The latter part, Final Fantasy has done multiple times so I'm sure they could do it in a better fashion on Dissidia rather than leaving speculation.

That's a losing argument on how canon it is without the creator directly stating it or making it logically fit without all of the series' story plots. It can reference the main series stories all it wants but until then it's just another crossover fighting game.

Someone being a God doesn't make them a multiversial reality warper. Sephiroth is at least able to destroy the planet. No one in God Of War is even close to that level. Sephiroth doesn't need to do that as he can just speedblitz the verse.

Sephiroth is never shown close to being planet busting level. The closest thing is spreading a disease-carrying form of mako energy across the earth. Hermes caused that just by dying.

And Sephiroth cannot blitz anyone in GoW worth their weight, either

Post the calc speed for GoW, preferably not that novel one. Only recall the Poseidon one in game.

Ares made his way from high up on Mt. Olympus to Kratos' location in a few seconds when Kratos called out to him.

So that's like at least a 10 mile journey in a few seconds. Mt. Olympus is apparently very tall.

kruemelmonsteryn0

Think that's still around the Poseidon speed

Ares flew from Mt. Olympus (or Egypt or something) to wherever Kratos was in a few seconds or something

CC said Mach 8000+ or something

I only remember him throwing a pillar from Egypt to Greece, and it certainly wasn't at Ma8k. Don't even recall him traveling to Kratos besides the begining when he slowly descends from some firery glow above him.

He threw a pillar from Athens to the Temple of Pandora. That obviously wasn't Mach 8k.
The Egypt thing is from the book, when Zeus tosses a bolt at Ares from Mt. Olympus.

Yeah, it's that slowly descending bit that's the feat, or more precisely, the travelling before that. He was on Mt. Olympus when Kratos called out. A couple of seconds later, he's at Kratos' location at ground level. Mt. Olympus' height alone makes it a massively hypersonic feat.

So yeah, Poseidon level. 313

But did he fly? :օ ('sides itd only be MHS if Olympus was.. over 100km high o.o)

When Neme brought up the novel one, he mentioned that CC did the same for a bolt in-game.

Go ask CosmicComet you phucking pedophile.

Say that like it's a bad thing. He's graduated in life, haven't seen him in ages.

Not like I miss him or think about him constantly.

Originally posted by BloodRain
But did he fly? :օ ('sides itd only be MHS if Olympus was.. over 100km high o.o)

When Neme brought up the novel one, he mentioned that CC did the same for a bolt in-game.

Isn't MHS Mach 50+? Or is it Mach 300+?
CC told me that he concluded that Mt. Olympus was pretty damn tall, i.e. way more than IRL, and even the 10 mile number I just made up.

Have to wait for his respect thread though, if he's still working on that.