Time vs Realty Manipulation...

Started by Ext@nt7 pages

How does reality control time? If I can control reality I can control the way the present is but I cannot control the past and the future.

I dont see why you think that.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
How does reality control time? If I can control reality I can control the way the present is but I cannot control the past and the future.

I dont see why you think that.


By effecting the present you can affect the past. Like If I make it so that you are a zebra, not just turning you into a zebra but changing reality so that you were born a zebra.

But up until that point in time it wasnt, see Reality only makes the present different.

Example:
At 11pm: Thanos uses the reality gem to make thor into a zebra.

Extant travels back to 10:59 pm thor is still thor since he hasnt been changed yet. IF Extant could get the gem away from Thanos then Thor would never become the Zebra.

What I'm saying is that when he manipulates reality at 11 at Thor becomes a Zebra. He rewrites reality so that Thor was always a Zebra. So from that point on reality has been altered and Extant can't go back to the time when Thor was not a Zebra, unless he goes to some alternate timeline or something.

I could be wrong about this whole 'rewriting' reality though 😮

Yes you are, If you have control of reality you can alter reality from that point on you cannot alter anything in the past.

Example: Wanda altered reality, But a few people remembered what the past really was cause she couldnt alter the past she recreated reality and everyone believed it cause their minds were folded into that new reality.

Got cha'

Originally posted by Roldz
but if somebody used time manipulation and say go back in time and somehow prevent the person from ever being born that would mean that person that reality thats been manipulated would not exist...

Wanda controlled the Past, the Present and the Future.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wanda controlled the Past, the Present and the Future.

No she didn't she altered the present and that was it.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
By effecting the present you can affect the past. Like If I make it so that you are a zebra, not just turning you into a zebra but changing reality so that you were born a zebra.

Exactly,

and that's what Causality is,

changing an event, to reach a different result, hence controlling Time.

Wanda changed the Past by making it as though Spiderman's X Gwen never died, Steve Rogers never took the SSS, so he still lived but never became Captain America.
The Avengers were alive again, because Wanda changed the past when she killed them.

Wanda even accelerated Genis's potential to its maximum, to Insane Genis-Vell Levels (he began blinking the Universe In and Out of existence, because of Wanda)

And on and on.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
What I'm saying is that when he manipulates reality at 11 at Thor becomes a Zebra. He rewrites reality so that Thor was always a Zebra. So from that point on reality has been altered and Extant can't go back to the time when Thor was not a Zebra, unless he goes to some alternate timeline or something.

I could be wrong about this whole 'rewriting' reality though

Actually, your making sense.

So proceed.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
No she didn't she altered the present and that was it.

Should I start drilling you with scans?

That show Wanda altering the Past, Present and Future.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Exactly,

and that's what Causality is,

changing an event, to reach a different result, hence controlling Time.

Wanda changed the Past by making it as though Spiderman's X Gwen never died, Steve Rogers never took the SSS, so he still lived but never became Captain America.
The Avengers were alive again, because Wanda changed the past when she killed them.

Wanda even accelerated Genis's potential to its maximum, to Insane Genis-Vell Levels (he began blinking the Universe In and Out of existence, because of Wanda)

And on and on.

All of that was reality control and nothing else. She never erased the fact that she killed hawkeye, she just made him alive again. The same with Gwen Stacy. She created a reality where Genis power was at its maximum.

All of this is REALITY alteration and nothing else.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Should I start drilling you with scans?

That show Wanda altering the Past, Present and Future.


I'd like to see some 😄

Originally posted by Ext@nt
All of that was reality control and nothing else. She never erased the fact that she killed hawkeye, she just made him alive again. The same with Gwen Stacy. She created a reality where Genis power was at its maximum.

All of this is REALITY alteration and nothing else.


But she could still rewrite reality if she wants to, not just alter it

Originally posted by Ext@nt
No she didn't she altered the present and that was it.

No she altered the past as well...

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Example: Wanda altered reality, But a few people remembered what the past really was cause she couldnt alter the past she recreated reality and everyone believed it cause their minds were folded into that new reality.

Not exactly,

The ONLY person in HOM that remembered the Past without Layla Miller's help was Wolverine.

The ONLY reason Wolvy remembered is because Wanda gave EVERYONE their heart's desire.

Wolvy's desire was to know his past, in getting that memory back, he also received the memory of what had happened.
So in effect Wanda gave him the ability to remember.

Layla Miller was Re-created by Wanda as a plot device, because no one was going to stop Wanda.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not exactly,

The ONLY person in HOM that remembered the Past without Layla Miller's help was Wolverine.

The ONLY reason Wolvy remembered is because Wanda gave EVERYONE their heart's desire.

Wolvy's desire was to know his past, in getting that memory back, he also received the memory of what had happened.
So in effect Wanda gave him the ability to remember.

Layla Miller was Re-created by Wanda as a plot device, because no one was going to stop Wanda.

Thats still reality altering. Theres nothing Wanda did that Extant hasnt done himself and with more skill.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Thats still reality altering. Theres nothing Wanda did that Extant hasnt done himself and with more skill.

Like I said in the other thread,

point out to me when Extant put EVERYTHING that is DC in jeopardy.

Wanda neraly DESTROYED EVERYTHING that is MARVEL.

Not the universe
Not the Multi-verse
Not Multi-verses

Wanda was Destroying the Omni-verse (EVERYTHING that IS Marvel)

Extant couldve erased the Big Bang itself. hence no DCU at all.