Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I will not answer any other of your questions until we deal with this issue first. I have been waiting and waiting for you to prove that Adam and Eve did not have a choice. Instead, you have moved on to other questions that I am not willing to move on to until this one is resolved. Dance, avoid, refuse--none of those words characterize my replies to any of your posts. I have stood firm and flat-footed against every one of your posts but you have failed to establish your argument that Adam and Eve had no choice.
I have addressed and answered each of your questions, and done so repeatedly, while you dodge and dance around mine. You sir, are a coward.
Hypothetical question: If you somehow (be it science, magic or divine intervention etc.) knew with 100% certainty that your child would grow up to be th worlds worst serial killer, would you not be, at least in part, guilty of those future deaths your child would cause if you didn't take measures to change him before they happened?
Originally posted by Robtard
I have addressed and answered each of your questions, and done so repeatedly, while you dodge and dance around mine. You sir, are a coward.Hypothetical question: If you somehow (be it science, magic or divine intervention etc.) knew with 100% certainty that your child would grow up to be th worlds worst serial killer, would you not be, at least in part, guilty of those future deaths your child would cause if you didn't take measures to change him before they happened?
You are obviously upset because it is evident in your name-calling. I believe that you are angry because you cannot prove that Adam and Eve did not have a choice. That was all I asked you to do.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are obviously upset because it is evident in your name-calling. I believe that you are angry because you cannot prove that Adam and Eve did not have a choice. That was all I asked you to do.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But his name-calling is stems from his frustration from not being able to meet my simple criteria in order to continue our discussion.
I don't have to be upset to state a fact as I see it. I have repeatedly answered your questions and played your dodge-dance games; you continue to play still.
Simple really, you are a coward; you're not here to debate your point of view, you're here to preach and ignore/dance around anything that threatens your preachings. Aka "a coward".
Edit: You using the "You're emotional; you're upset" tactic is priceless.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveIt has been answered in more ways that one and by multiple people, you just can't accept it because in order for us to have free will God can't be all-knowing.
You are obviously upset because it is evident in your name-calling. I believe that you are angry because you cannot prove that Adam and Eve did not have a choice. That was all I asked you to do.
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
It has been answered in more ways that one and by multiple people, you just can't accept it because in order for us to have free will God can't be all-knowing.
There is a way for us to have free will and for God to be all knowing. God cannot be a person, but a force of nature.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI wouldn't classify all information as all-knowing and that is the problem is that it is a person that is able to make decisions with all knowledge which cause the issue of no free will.
OK, what about time, or the universe. The problem is that all-knowing suggests a person. How about all information?
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't have to be upset to state a fact as I see it. [B]I have repeatedly answered your questions and played your dodge-dance games; you continue to play still.Simple really, you are a coward; you're not here to debate your point of view, you're here to preach and ignore/dance around anything that threatens your preachings. Aka "a coward".
Edit: You using the "You're emotional; you're upset" tactic is priceless. [/B]
I am not asking you to answer my questions (as such), I am asking you to prove that Adam and Eve did not have a free will (just admit that you cannot do this).
I keep reiterating the fact that Grand_Moff_Gav got my point because he was able to discern the pith and niceties of my case masterfully.