Storm vs. Meggan

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So you know nothing about Jaspers or the Scarlet Witch?
Above you said the reason Jaspers couldn't be Omega is that he doesn't have an elemental form. Which is inaccurate anyway.😐

They have to posses ultimate power and be able to turn into an elemental form without a body to live in, they also have to be able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale. Storm fits this category at her peak.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Now you say it doesn't have to be.
Wikipedia. What exactly did Earth 295 Storm do that was so incredibly impressive, if I may ask?
🤨

You know good well i provided the post before about what all you need to be to become an omega, i said an elemental was one of them, something storm is not in her current state.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

1) Meggan is an elemental empathic metamorph.
2) I'm not trying to argue in any way that she's an Omega, and for all intents and purposes she's dead.
3) You just said that "I never said it had to be just be an elemental form they could turn into." to be an Omega.

Now you're saying it does have to be.

Seriously what the hell are you talking about.

You really aren't paying attention at what i posted. i said you had to be atleast an elemental in order to become an omega level, Why? because storm and iceman's power works the same, only difference is storm isn't immuned to cold temperatures and therefor would need an elemental form to be able to withstand any super cold temperatures.

Tell me would there be a difference then? No

then storm becomes an omega just like iceman

Originally posted by The Weather God
They have to posses ultimate power and be able to turn into an elemental form without a body to live in, they also have to be able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale. Storm fits this category at her peak.

You know good well i provided the post before about what all you need to be to become an omega, i said an elemental was one of them, something storm is not in her current state.

You really aren't paying attention at what i posted. i said you had to be atleast an elemental in order to become an omega level, Why? because storm and iceman's power works the same, only difference is storm isn't immuned to cold temperatures and therefor would need an elemental form to be able to withstand any super cold temperatures.

Tell me would there be a difference then?

How you're defining Omega is inaccurate. You don't become an Omega by growing in power.

The difference between Storm and Iceman? Iceman is an Omega. No bullshit speculation necessary.

Being immune to cold is going to make her an Omega? 🤨

Under your definition Elixir isn't an Omega. Which he is. As stated numerous times, unambiguously on panel, by X-writers and X-characters.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How you're defining Omega is inaccurate. You don't become an Omega by growing in power.

Under your definition Elixir isn't an Omega. Which he is. As stated numerous times, unambiguously on panel, by X-writers and X-characters.

People can still always be possible omega level and never get annouced, all i'm saying is in her peak form she very well fits the same description as iceman. They both lower and raise temperatures to freeze, difference is storm is not immuned to these temperature changes and she isen't an elemental and therefor she should not be an omega yet. Her peak form should be tho because she would be able to use her powers like iceman.

I'll also admit to not knowing much about them

Originally posted by The Weather God
People can still always be possible omega level and never get annouced

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Every mutant is possibly Omega...Hell, even Maggot's possibly Omega. But their not omega until it's stated in cannon that they are.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which is why "possible Omega mutant" is meaningless. Infinitely moreso than "confirmed Omega mutant", which in itself is also basically meaningless.

That still doesn't mean that every person is possible omega's because not everyone can fills in the blanks needed to be an omega.

Originally posted by The Weather God
That still doesn't mean that every person is possible omega's because not everyone can fills in the blanks needed to be an omega.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If a legitimate source in a canon comic, by a capable and respected writer, comes out and says Squirrel Girl is an Omega mutant. She is.

No way in hell that is possible because she can't turn into an elemental and she cannot live without a body.

Nice try tho 😎

Originally posted by The Weather God
No way in hell that is possible because she can't turn into an elemental and she cannot live without a body.

Nice try tho 😎

Nor has Jaspers. So he isn't. Nor has Wanda. So she isn't. Nor has Storm, who shouldn't even be in the same paragraph as Jaspers or Wanda. So she isn't.

Originally posted by The Weather God
No way in hell that is possible because she can't turn into an elemental and she cannot live without a body.

Nice try tho 😎

Being an elemental is not a requirement to be an Omega-level Mutant.

Originally posted by Soljer
Being an elemental is not a requirement to be an Omega-level Mutant.

QQ is a pure psionic, likewise Jean Grey. Mr M is reality warper iirc. As is Franklin Richards. Elixir manipulates only organic matter. Vulcan is an energy manipulator in general.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh.. doesn't matter. Nor can Elixir. If she's confirmed conclusively as an Omega, she is one. But she hasn't been so she isn't.

Nor has Jaspers. So he isn't. Nor has Wanda. So she isn't. Nor has Storm, who shouldn't even be in the same paragraph as Jaspers or Wanda. So she isn't.

Oh and iceman would? save your breath

and Elixir is an Omega-level mutant

Capable of controlling the biological structure of any organic matter including his own body. He is still inexperienced in the use of his powers, and the limits of his abilities are unknown. Currently he mostly uses his powers for healing, at which he is very skilled. He must be in close proximity to whomever he heals, but can heal through clothing.

At present, Elixir has healed both simple and serious injuries from broken bones to mortal wounds. He also restored Wolfsbane's powers and altered his own DNA. Recently, Elixir has displayed the ability to harm as well as heal, such as causing painful boils and welts to appear on the flesh of his enemies. He even used his powers to kill William Stryker, although Prodigy hypothesizes that he was never meant to use his powers in this manner.

He fits the category provided by wikipedia pefectly

Originally posted by The Weather God
Oh and iceman would? save your breath

and Elixir is an Omega-level mutant

He fits the category provided by wikipedia pefectly

He doesn't fit your warped definition you're trying to use to make Storm an Omega. Am I supposed to give a toss what wikipedia says?

He isn't an elemental.
He doesn't exist as a pure consciousness.
He is still an Omega, and will be regardless of whether he grows powerful or not.

Originally posted by Soljer
Being an elemental is not a requirement to be an Omega-level Mutant.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Didn't you get the memo? Apparently it is.....Sorry Elixir, your Omega-Level status has been withdrawn.

The only omega now... is Iceman. It's a small club.

Originally posted by Soljer
Being an elemental is not a requirement to be an Omega-level Mutant.

I guess for storm it is because her power works like iceman, and the only difference in their powera are that iceman is an elemental.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Most of the confirmed Omega's are not "elementals" in fact. Of them only Iceman is an elemental.

QQ is a pure psionic, likewise Jean Grey. Mr M is reality warper iirc. As is Franklin Richards. Elixir manipulates only organic matter. Vulcan is an energy manipulator in general.

I think they all can live without they're body's tho

Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements.

They can't have any help and their body have to be able to handle all that power, storm's powers can destroy her body actually.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Didn't you get the memo? Apparently it is.....Sorry Elixir, your Omega-Level status has been withdrawn.

And Franklin Richards, Mr. M, Kid Omega.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I guess for storm it is because her power works like iceman, and the only difference in their powera are that iceman is an elemental.

Originally posted by The Weather God
They can't have any help and their body have to be able to handle all that power, storm's powers can destroy her body actually.

And secondly, seriously I don't care what you found on wikipedia.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I know Elixir is an Omega level mutant. I've been saying it for pages. 😐

He doesn't fit your warped definition you're trying to use to make Storm an Omega. Am I supposed to give a toss what wikipedia says?

I'm done with you on this part 🙄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

He isn't an elemental.
He doesn't exist as a pure consciousness.
He is still an Omega, and will be regardless of whether he grows powerful or not.

Storm's ultimate peak can live without a consciousness. Iceman is a elemental because ice is an elemental force, and he can exist with only a consciousness. So would storm be able to once she's in her ultimate peak.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I'm done with you on this part 🙄

Storm's ultimate peak can live without a consciousness. Iceman is a elemental because ice is an elemental force, and he can exist with only a consciousness. So would storm be able to once she's in her ultimate peak.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It is a requirement to be an elemental for Storm to be an Omega because she's an elemental? Seriously what are you talking about.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
First off, what? No idea what you were trying to say.

Storm can lower temperatures far below zero but if she does this in the same place she is in then she'll die , her body can't handle her powers.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And secondly, seriously I don't care what you found on wikipedia.

fine by me seeing that this is the only source we're getting our omega info from to know anything about omega leveled.