White Phoenix VS HOM Scarlet Witch

Originally posted by Mr Master
Reparation of a specific Timeline at the Atomic level is not universal control.

Where do you see any other comic being affected by this?

If she really would have affected the 616 universe in any way, every other Comic book title would have been involved, like in HOM.

Or did you think the 616 Universe only contains the New X-Men?

You could argue the same thing about when the Avengers or the Fantastic Four face down big cosmic threats. Abraxas' rampage wasnt featured in X-men or the Avengers. Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

You've got to be objective Mr M 🙂

The timeline is reality. The 616 timeline is Eternity. He embodies the chronal axis. As we saw at the end of the HCT arc it is the 616 timeline Jean repaired, by amputating the infected HCT future of that timeline, materializing the subsequently wounded reality into the "hospital" before altering the past. Everything youre reading in 616 comics today is the fruition of Jeans work. Things wouldve turned out very differently as HCT illustrated. You like the recent stories? Thank Jean!! 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You could argue the same thing about when the Avengers or the Fantastic Four face down big cosmic threats. Abraxas' rampage wasnt featured in X-men or the Avengers. Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

not to mention the massively cross overy Destiny Wars where the entire universe was at stake but miraculousy only the rick jones and the Avengers were needed.....oh and Operation Galactic Storm...yeah those avengers can be so arrogant they face massive threats and all the other super teams dont get involved....*shakes fist angrily* arrgghhh..arrogant bastards!!! 😠

GO JEANNIE!!!

Originally posted by manjaro
not to mention the massively cross overy Destiny Wars where the entire universe was at stake but miraculousy only the rick jones and the Avengers were needed.....oh and Operation Galactic Storm...yeah those avengers can be so arrogant they face massive threats and all the other super teams dont get involved....*shakes fist angrily* arrgghhh..arrogant bastards!!! 😠

Exactly!! ✅

Originally posted by jffxex1980
GO JEANNIE!!!

😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You highlighted Mr Masters fallacy over that white hot room issue without the need for essays. I would do well to follow your example

You mean like this FALLACY?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet the UN is only a universal device, whose full power has been contained by Galactus:

Here is the TRUTH:

"Tyrant, Morg, Air Walker, GALACTUS....ALL are DEAD"

"They have been Consumed...ULTIMATELY NULLIFIED"

"What being will take GALACTUS'S PLACE"

"UNABLE to STOP or CONTROL the Nullifier, GALACTUS was OVERWHELMED"

So much for Galactus "containing the power of the UN"...

Morg discharged the Ultimate Nullifier in an effort to stop Tyrant, but also apparently destroyed himself and Galactus.

Galactus survived by escaping extra-dimensionally and was later summoned by Reed to oppose the power of Hyperstorm;

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Galactus

I did my own reasearch ofcourse, and it happened exactly like they said:

After Reed travels through the Cross Roads of Infinity to find Galactus

Reed places a machine that can find various Spectrums of Energy on the exact spot the UN was used by Morg

Reed's machine finds traces of a distinctive EXAUST TRAIL, that could have only come from Galactus's World Ship

"This indicates that Galactus ESCAPED at the LAST MOMENT into a Parallel Dimension"

Galactus in a Dimensionl Void, where he escaped to from the Ultimate Nullifier

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OR,

Like THIS Ultimate FALLACY

This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even:

He even threw in an extra close up

You CUT OUT the STRANGER from the Scan to make it appear as though they are bowing to JEAN.

The REAL SCAN, untarnished and UNTAMPERED with:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its good to see that this issue has been settled.

It's good to see you ignored these deliberate acts of betrayel towards all.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Jean amputated the infected HCT future.
She then materialized the 616 universe into the "hospital" (White Hot Room) for treatment (in the process demonstrating control over the atomic structure of an entire reality in the palm of her hand.
Jean then grows this badly wounded universe a new future by altering past events (Scotts reactions) thereby growing a new future to replace the "diseased" one she amputated.The reason this feat couldnt be achieved merely through time travel and mind control is because without having first amputated the future, altering events would merely have caused a divergent timeline (leaving Sublime to remain a threat in reality) as the future is set in stone as we've seen illustrated by characters like Rachel and Cable. The HCT future wouldve still existed alongside the alternate one created.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
By amputating the infected future first, altering past events meant that a new future grew alone from the main timeline.

NOT according to GRANT MORRISON, you know, the guy Who WROTE the Story

Here's a close up:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Hope that ends any attempts to deride the feat by saying it could be achieved by merely time travelling and using telepathy.

When Grant Morrison agrees with you, come back.

For NOW, GRANT MORRISON said ALL Jean did was CHANGE Scotts Mind about Emma.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You could argue the same thing about when the Avengers or the Fantastic Four face down big cosmic threats. Abraxas' rampage wasnt featured in X-men or the Avengers. Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

You got nerve dude,

the X-Men had NOTHING to do with the Abraxas arc, because they SUCK!

Nearly EVERY OTHER hero appeared in the Abraxas series, even Villains.

The Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Quasar, Moon Dragon

Roma, Saturnyne, Franklyn Richards and Valeria Doom

FULL Power Franklyn Richards

Prince Namor

Spiderman and Thor

Namorita

Novas, from ALL over the MULTI-VERSE

EVEN Alternate versions as well as their 616 counterparts

The Shroud, The Rose, Buck Barnes, Dr Druid, Captain Universe, the Whizzer, Battling Jack, Red Raven, Living Lightning, Namora

Doctor Doom

Villains, from other UNIVERSES aswell

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The Watcher

And finally,

Here we actually SEE the REAL ETERNITY and INFINITY being AFFECTED (Destroyed and Remade) ---- (not some glowing glob like what JEAN had)

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Everything youre reading in 616 comics today is the fruition of Jeans work.

This is the biggest BULL shit ever posted on KMC forums.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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NOT according to GRANT MORRISON, you know, the guy Who WROTE the Story

Here's a close up:

When Grant Morrison agrees with you, come back.

For NOW, GRANT MORRISON said ALL Jean did was CHANGE Scotts Mind about Emma.

Good try Emmie but that doesnt dispute anything that ive said whatsoever. It says that Jean avoided the events of HCT by altering the past basically and thats true. But as we saw on panel there were things Jean did before she altered the past, things stated which cant be denied. Omission of explicit detail on a space restricted letters page does NOT equate to a contradiction as you would have people believe. Thats just a brief recap on a letters page. Doesnt say thats the alteration was the ONLY thing what Jean did, readers of the title know thats not the case. Its just the only thing thats mentioned.

Sorry mate. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
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NOT according to GRANT MORRISON, you know, the guy Who WROTE the Story

Here's a close up:

When Grant Morrison agrees with you, come back.

For NOW, GRANT MORRISON said ALL Jean did was CHANGE Scotts Mind about Emma.

you know this is the first time i actually read one of your scans properly and where in those scan does it state that all jean did was erase scott's mind? from what i can see its your interpretation of it from what i see it does not say anythin like that. so apocalyptic event to you simply means erasin the mind of one individual? a comic is like a bible you read it and u interpret it how you want, i see the scans and I dont accept your conclusion because it does not say that

Nope. Dont try and change the subject by bringing up all manner of completely unrelated and very much OFF TOPIC matters.

All these issues youre trying to dispute ive said i'll make threads for over in the comic books forum.

Issues such as the UNs status, The WHR scene and the crystal. Now is not the time to go off on a tangent. You have a habit of doing that.

Originally posted by tiakocom
you know this is the first time i actually read one of your scans properly and where in those scan does it state that all jean did was erase scott's mind? from what i can see its your interpretation of it from what i see it does not say anythin like that. so apocalyptic event to you simply means erasin the mind of one individual? a comic is like a bible you read it and u interpret it how you want, i see the scans and I dont accept your conclusion because it does not say that

THANK YOU!!! 😄

The alteration of the past is all that is mentioned. That doesnt mean that thats all that happened. Comic book readers saw that thats not all Jean did. However given the space restricted nature of a letters page its understandable why not everything was mentioned.

Again. Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by tiakocom
you know this is the first time i actually read one of your scans properly and where in those scan does it state that all jean did was erase scott's mind? from what i can see its your interpretation of it from what i see it does not say anythin like that. so apocalyptic event to you simply means erasin the mind of one individual? a comic is like a bible you read it and u interpret it how you want, i see the scans and I dont accept your conclusion because it does not say that

Then you need READING LESSONS my boy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Then you need READING LESSONS my boy.

Why? Because he doesnt agree with you? 🙄

It doesnt state thats all she did.Readers of the comic know thats not the case.Its just all that was mentioned. Which is understandable on a space restricted letters page.

Doesnt help your case at all. ❌

Originally posted by Mr Master
Then you need READING LESSONS my boy.

if thats how you choose to dismiss other people then your right i do need reading lesson and you need to stop deluding yourself to. we can both agree on that

Originally posted by tiakocom
and you need to stop deluding yourself to.

If only he would 🙁

Originally posted by tiakocom
if thats how you choose to dismiss other people then your right i do need reading lesson and you need to stop deluding yourself to. we can both agree on that

Nah,

We can both agree you can't READ.

It CLEARLY says, JEAN CHANGED SCOTTS MIND about EMMA, and that ALTERED the FUTURE.

If you don't see that, well.... you CAN'T READ my boy, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Just continue to agrre with your leader, who has been CAUGHT time and time again Lying and FABRICATING Evidence.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah,

We can both agree you can't READ.

It CLEARLY says, JEAN CHANGED SCOTTS MIND about EMMA, and that ALTERED the FUTURE.

If you don't see that, well.... you CAN'T READ my boy, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Noones denying that the alteration of the past is what changed the future, however there were a few things Jean did before she altered the past. She amputated the future for instance. Its stated anyone who read the title saw it and yet its not mentioned in that brief recap on the letters page. Does that mean that she didnt do that? Are u really going to try and argue that? 😆 Its just down to limited space my friend. ✅

Just to sum up, Jean changed the future by altering the past, however there were steps she took on panel before that which arent detailed in the small recap. Thats irrelevant. Omission doesnt equate to non occurrence. 😄