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Originally posted by Utrigita
Mr Master what the difference between manipulating matter and reality warping???

btw did ore didn't you include Protege and Scrathen in the hierachy.

Well usually, manipulating matter means you can transform matter into other forms, transmute elements, break it down, combine it, etc.

Reality warping means you can violate the laws of thermodynamics and create matter from nothingness or destroy it, as well as energy, and mess with space and time, the laws of physics, and sometimes even logic.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well usually, manipulating matter means you can transform matter into other forms, transmute elements, break it down, combine it, etc.

Reality warping means you can violate the laws of thermodynamics and create matter from nothingness or destroy it, as well as energy, and mess with space and time, the laws of physics, and sometimes even logic.

I agree.

Here, Mephisto states that Beyonder (pre-retcon) embodied all of the substance of another multiverse.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Here, Mephisto states that Beyonder (pre-retcon) embodied all of the substance of another multiverse.

That's right.

The insane thing is,

the Universe he initially created was already an Ocean,
and the Prime Multiverse was a drop of water.

So imagine the Multiverse his Universe expanded into.

ouch.

Or possibly the original universe was devided into several rather then just gaining universes from... somewhere.

Mephisto contemplates in attacking LT. Shows he's got ballz.
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/?action=view&current=MephistovsTheAvengers24.jpg

Originally posted by King Kandy
Or possibly the original universe was devided into several rather then just gaining universes from... somewhere.

The original Marvel Universe was one Universe,
but it continued to expand into a Multiverse and on to even greater scales.

I know for a fact that the original Universe did not splinter into a Multiverse,
it just grew into one and continued to grow more into an Omniverse and it's still expanding.

I believe Beyonder's Universe simply continued to grow into a Multiverse,
as it "met no resistance in the Infinite Beyond."

Originally posted by Mr Master
The original Marvel Universe was one Universe,
but it continued to expand into a Multiverse and on to even greater scales.

I know for a fact that the original Universe did not splinter into a Multiverse,
it just grew into one and continued to grow more into an Omniverse and it's still expanding.

I believe Beyonder's Universe simply continued to grow into a Multiverse,
as it "met no resistance in the Infinite Beyond."

Have u heard about the Crystal Palace

Originally posted by guy222
Have u heard about the Crystal Palace

That's where the Exiles monitor the Omniverse from.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Originally posted by Galan007
The art in these issues, has been phenomenal. 👆

It almost seems like the future of art.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well usually, manipulating matter means you can transform matter into other forms, transmute elements, break it down, combine it, etc.

Reality warping means you can violate the laws of thermodynamics and create matter from nothingness or destroy it, as well as energy, and mess with space and time, the laws of physics, and sometimes even logic.

Anybody else wanna take a shot at this thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t458554.html

There is one thing that's confusing, if Thanos with the Heart was one with the Omniverse, why didn't he destroy it when he went mad?

Originally posted by Astner
There is one thing that's confusing, if Thanos with the Heart was one with the Omniverse, why didn't he destroy it when he went mad?

I believe that he did destroy all of Marvel (well atleast all of Time & Space in the Omniverse)

and then he re-created it.

I don't have any absolute proof to claim that as fact but I do have one piece of info that's interesting.

This:

Warlock calls the Cosmic Vortex ^^^

"an Infinity BEYOND Infinity"

the Totality of Infinity is all the Space in the Multiverse, Eternity is all of Time.

What's BEYOND Infinity?

The rest of the Omniverse.

The series was called "Marvel: The End"

What is the Marvel?

An Omniverse.

hm Interesting isn't it?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't have any absolute proof to claim that as fact but I do have one piece of info that's interesting.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I believe that he did destroy all of Marvel (well atleast all of Time & Space in the Omniverse)

and then he re-created it.

I don't have any absolute proof to claim that as fact but I do have one piece of info that's interesting.

This:

Warlock calls the Cosmic Vortex ^^^

"an Infinity BEYOND Infinity"

the Totality of Infinity is all the Space in the Multiverse, Eternity is all of Time.

What's BEYOND Infinity?

The rest of the Omniverse.

The series was called "Marvel: The End"

What is the Marvel?

An Omniverse.

hm Interesting isn't it?

Originally posted by Galan007
In the realm of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Nice quote, but I don't get it. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice quote, but I don't get it. 🙁

In the Kingdom of the Blind, the Man with One Eye is King. Its a good movie

Do u think Brio is a Celestial

Originally posted by Astner
So basicly Thanos did destroy all of Marvel, only the pocket universes, such as Atzela´s, Franklin´s etc. did survive because they´re not creations of TOAA?

IMO, (without absolute proof)

I believe he did according to the subtle proof I just presented.

The Realms that survived were Outside of Space and Time,
not necessarily non-creations of TOAA.

TOAA/God controls everything in Marvel,
Franky created a mini-universe because TOAA/God allowed it.

Not once was the term Multiverse or Megaverse used during the End,

but we know for SURE the arc dealt with MORE than one Universe:

Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other Timelines, (UniverseS)

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"

And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

.............................................................................

This solidifies the FACT, that the END dealt with the Omniverse:

Thanos was everything within the Omniverse.

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

So TWO terms are used to depict what we're dealing with:

"Universe" (as in the Marvel Universe)

Omni-Reality (Omniverse - what the Marvel Universe is)

Originally posted by guy222
Do u think Brio is a Celestial

I do.

Perhaps the first or not.