Question:
You have posted this scan of Beyonder showing that he was outside of both space and time:
Then this scan came up and it made me wonder. Because it seems as though this place where LT dwells (16th dimension) is VERY much the same as the beyond realm:
Both are stated as "beyond space and time," and IMO LT's realm seems much more impressive, (or at least better written).
Your thoughts?
Originally posted by Galan777
Question:You have posted this scan of Beyonder showing that he was outside of both space and time:
Both are stated as "beyond space and time," and IMO LT's realm seems much more impressive, (or at least better written).
Your thoughts?
I had a long debate with someone over the "White Background" depictions in Marvel.
They basically mean without Space and Time or without Reality such as a Universe with Star stuff and such.
When the FURY teleported himself and Jaspers into a Universe that was erased, there was NO Space and Time, so the background was White.
Any Realm or Dimension or Universe that is beyond Space and Time, simply means it's disconnected from Reality.
ps. Un-Reality has also been depicted as all Black Backgrounds, as in the case of THOTU:
Or the 238 Universe that was erased by the Omniversal Tribunal:
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo how many realities Beyond Space and Time are there?
I had a long debate with someone over the "White Background" depictions in Marvel.They basically mean without Space and Time or without Reality such as a Universe with Star stuff and such.
When the FURY teleported himself and Jaspers into a Universe that was erased, there was NO Space and Time, so the background was White.
Any Realm or Dimension or Universe that is beyond Space and Time, simply means it's disconnected from Reality.
ps. Un-Reality has also been depicted as all Black Backgrounds, as in the case of THOTU:
Or the 238 Universe that was erased by the Omniversal Tribunal:
And what makes one of them different or better then the other?
Originally posted by Galan777
So how many realities Beyond Space and Time are there?And what makes one of them different or better then the other?
I don't think there's a comparison in most cases, they are simply detached from any Universe.
They could be Universes that were rubbed out at one time or another, or small domains like Atleza's, (the Multiversal Anchor)
Now in the Beyonder's (pre-retcon) case, it was stated by the Writer that his Reality was like an Ocean compared to a drop of water, when comparing the MU with it.
So in that specific case, we see a Reality beyond Space and Time that is significantly larger than any other.
Originally posted by Mr MasterCool, that makes sense.
I don't think there's a comparison in most cases, they are simply detached from any Universe.They could be Universes that were rubbed out at one time or another, or small domains like Atleza's, (the Multiversal Anchor)
Now in the Beyonder's (pre-retcon) case, it was stated by the Writer that his Reality was like an Ocean compared to a drop of water, when comparing the MU with it.
So in that specific case, we see a Reality beyond Space and Time that is significantly larger than any other.
-Thanks!
Originally posted by darthgooberThats what I thought as well, it just seems that feat for feat:
Because the Magus was able to controle the energyies of the UN with an incomplete IG.
UN>IG
Of course I know its not, because among other things, Thanos /w/ IG could create life..... but thats how it seems.
Originally posted by Galan777
Thats what I thought as well, it just seems that feat for feat:UN>IG
Of course I know its not, because among other things, Thanos /w/ IG could create life..... but thats how it seems.
Originally posted by darthgooberYeah thats very true, its just confusing sometimes. I think if the IG saga was written now-adays, it would be made to be much more powerful.
I know it's kinda weird. But it still kinda does make sense. Think about it, the power gem gives the user control over energy, all energy. And despite the depth of power behind the energies of the UN, they would still be subject to the power gem. So anything that the UN could destroy with it's energies, the power gem(if used to it's full potential, which it never is outside of an assembled Gauntlet) could destroy also. Now as for the remaking part, for that you would also have to have the rest of the Gauntlet(Time, Space, Mind, Soul, Reality).
i would have never considered the UN greater then the IG untill the Abraxas arch which was written years later, because before Reed used the UN, it really wasn't too impressive compared to the IG.
Hey Galan, here's a mind bender for you...
When Eternity was petitioning for Thanos to be stripped of the IG, it was the Universal aspect, right? Well, what if he had been successful and the Gauntlet were turned over to him(Eternity)? Would it have went to the Multiversal aspect of Eternity, or the Universal aspect? Because if it went to the Universal aspect, he would then be MORE powerful than Multi-Eternity. But the Universal Eternity seemed as though he actually wanted it for himself, he made no mention of wanting to hand over to the greater whole of the Multiverse. He kept saying things like "Am 'I' not the sum of all there is".
Originally posted by darthgoobererrrrrrr, thats a good question, of which i have absolutly no answer too 😮
Hey Galan, here's a mind bender for you...When Eternity was petitioning for Thanos to be stripped of the IG, it was the Universal aspect, right? Well, what if he had been successful and the Gauntlet were turned over to him(Eternity)? Would it have went to the Multiversal aspect of Eternity, or the Universal aspect? Because if it went to the Universal aspect, he would then be MORE powerful than Multi-Eternity. But the Universal Eternity seemed as though he actually wanted it for himself, he made no mention of wanting to hand over to the greater whole of the Multiverse. He kept saying things like "Am 'I' not the sum of all there is".
