Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by darthgoober178 pages

Originally posted by Galan777
errrrrrr, thats a good question, of which i have absolutly no answer too 😮

I know, I've been thinking about that one for months now. I wish the writers thought about this stuff as much as we do, it would save a lot of confusion on our parts.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know, I've been thinking about that one for months now. I wish the writers thought about this stuff as much as we do, it would save a lot of confusion on our parts.
😂 I can't even mention what Eternity /w/ the IG could have done...... 😱

Originally posted by Galan777
😂 I can't even mention what Eternity /w/ the IG could have done...... 😱

how would it fi his hand? 😕

😛

Originally posted by Priest
how would it fi his hand? 😕

😛

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Galactus reaching Full Power (He never made it to FP though)

"If Galactus isn't stopped now, the ENTIRE UNIVERSE will PERISH"

"the Fantastic Four are trying to stop Galactus from DESTROYING the UNIVERSE"

The Dreaming or (Black Celestial) was using GALACTUS to DESTROY ALL of Reality, to then CREATE a NEW ONE.

His (Galactus) appetite increased Geometrically, he would consume not only Planets, but the ENTIRE UNIVERSE"

Galactus's Power can obliterate the ENTIRE race of Celestials, destroy the Universe and create a NEW one.

"and with the UNIVERSE DESTROYED, not even the Celestials will survive, the Black Celestial will become the NUCLEUS and FOUNDER of a NEW UNIVERSE"

"He will be a GOD"

"Galactus Himself is the WEAPON"

"The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"

"Galactus who's busy wolfin' (eating) down ALL of TIME and SPACE"

"Still the Giant doth continue to GROW"

"Eventually, Thor, He would SPAN the ENTIRE UNIVERSE"

So not only will he absorb the Universe but he will become as big as one.

Finally,

in order to stop himself from absorbing the UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND

Galactus ERASES that UNIVERSE from existence

"And without a sound, the UNIVERSE behind them softly and suddenly VANISHES AWAY"

The MAKERS in ACTION

The MAKERS took a UNIVERSE and RE-CREATED it,

the Micro-verse (which they ALSO Created) is PART of this Universe.

"They have taken the FABRIC of the COSMOS, and WOVEN it ANEW"

The MAKERS brought SOULS from all the UNIVERSES of the MUTLI-VERSE into this UNIVERSE they RE-CREATED, to give it meaning.

More proof they RESHAPED a UNIVERSE, into their OWN, and a section of that Universe was the ONE and ONLY MICRO-VERSE, which they also created

"Why can't we look on them? ... Why can't we see the MAKERS?"

"They REAMDE the STARS, the PLANETS, the GALAXIES"

"All I want for now, is to see them"

He gets his wish:

He's allowed to see ONE of the MAKERS:

Here's the WHOLE GANG

History of the VERSUS

WAYYYYYYYY back in the day, (1967 is the first time we see the Universe in full, it was just an Infinite number of GALAXIES then)

before Marvel expanded it's Universe into a Multi-verse in 1976, with the first issue of What If,

Then in 1983 the Omni-verse is mentioned for the first time (this is a remake of the original issue, same art, just with Color, original was Black & White)

At first the Omni-verse was exclusively used in Captain Britain associated titles only (though these were published by Marvel), years later it transitioned into the mainstream Marvel Reality.

And that's the History of the VERSES in Marvel,

what is the terrible threat to the omniverse merlin is referring to? if an omniverse is indeed the sum of marvel and its subsidaries, this threat would have to be at the top of your hierarchy.

and if LT is the guardian of the multiverse, wouldn't merlin (being the guardian of the omniverse) outstrip the tribunal in power?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey Galan, here's a mind bender for you...

When Eternity was petitioning for Thanos to be stripped of the IG, it was the Universal aspect, right? Well, what if he had been successful and the Gauntlet were turned over to him(Eternity)? Would it have went to the Multiversal aspect of Eternity, or the Universal aspect? Because if it went to the Universal aspect, he would then be MORE powerful than Multi-Eternity. But the Universal Eternity seemed as though he actually wanted it for himself, he made no mention of wanting to hand over to the greater whole of the Multiverse. He kept saying things like "Am 'I' not the sum of all there is".


It was probably his desire to exceed Multi-Eternity.

He was a very ambitious Abstract, witth many desires, as no less of an authority as the Living Tribunal has stated.

Originally posted by manorastroman
what is the terrible threat to the omniverse merlin is referring to? if an omniverse is indeed the sum of marvel and its subsidaries, this threat would have to be at the top of your hierarchy.

and if LT is the guardian of the multiverse, wouldn't merlin (being the guardian of the omniverse) outstrip the tribunal in power?


The terrible threat is Jim Jaspers, right? I don't know.

Originally posted by manorastroman
what is the terrible threat to the omniverse merlin is referring to? if an omniverse is indeed the sum of marvel and its subsidaries, this threat would have to be at the top of your hierarchy.

and if LT is the guardian of the multiverse, wouldn't merlin (being the guardian of the omniverse) outstrip the tribunal in power?

master? you got anything on this?

Originally posted by manorastroman
what is the terrible threat to the omniverse merlin is referring to?

Jim Jaspers 616

Originally posted by manorastroman
if an omniverse is indeed the sum of marvel and its subsidaries, this threat would have to be at the top of your hierarchy.

It is,

I have him tied for Third Place,

with Captain Britain (wielding the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right together)

Meggan (who can harness the power of the Beyond or Beyonders)

and the Living Tribunal,

Actually though they are all in Third Place, the exact order is, one is slightly more powerful than the other based on panel feats.:

1. LT

2. Meggan (Full Potential) she actually was able to slow down the Chaos Wave

3. Captain Britain (Omniversal Guardian)

4. Jim Jaspers

Originally posted by manorastroman
and if LT is the guardian of the multiverse, wouldn't merlin (being the guardian of the omniverse) outstrip the tribunal in power?

The new Omniversal Guardian is Captain Britain, Roma has taken the position of Multiversal Guardian now.

LT is the Judge of every Multi-verse in the Omni-verse, NOT just one Multi-verse.

Whose number two oon the hierarchy?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Whose number two oon the hierarchy?

It's on page one K.

But to save you time,

#2 Pre-retcon Beyond and pre-retcon Molecule Man.

Beyonder was more powerful, but I couldn't put Molecule Man in thrid with LT and the rest cause undoubtably, Molecule Man was more powerful than LT.

you had that scan of living tribunal this whole time and you never showed it until now??? blowup

do you know how quickly that would have shut me up? that's WAY more conclusive than any of your captain britain scans, where the "omniverse" they keep referring to is never described.

Originally posted by manorastroman
you had that scan of living tribunal this whole time and you never showed it until now???

Actually it's on the first page of this thread, under the Living Tribunal's spot in the Hierarchy.

🙂

Originally posted by manorastroman
do you know how quickly that would have shut me up?

I don't mind you or anyone disputing what I claim mano, I invite and encourage dialogue, but it gets frustrating when I produce an insurmountable amount of evidence and it continues to be brushed away without any evidence.

Originally posted by manorastroman
that's WAY more conclusive than any of your captain britain scans, where the "omniverse" they keep referring to is never described.

We'll agree to disagree on this one.

imo, the Captain Britain scans are far more conclusive of the existence of an Omni-verse.

this thread rocks so dont stop mm and rockon

Originally posted by Mr Master
It's on page one K.

But to save you time,

#2 Pre-retcon Beyond and pre-retcon Molecule Man.

Beyonder was more powerful, but I couldn't put Molecule Man in thrid with LT and the rest cause undoubtably, Molecule Man was more powerful than LT.


Then why not make LT and the gang 4th?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Then why not make LT and the gang 4th?

Well,

while Beyonder was more powerful than MM, MM didn't lag to far behind.

In the Hierarchy I made, individuals sharing spots are also differenciated by levels according to whos got the highest position in said spot.

For example,

Beyonder and MM share 2nd place, but, Beyonder is above MM in the 2nd place slot.

In other words, Beyonder was more powerful but not by a landslide.

Okay. Remember back in Starlins Warlock, How Warlock went to Kismet and erased a timeline?

Where does that fit into the Omniversal archetecture?

Also, can you post Jim Jaspers vs. The fury scans?