Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by Erik-Lensherr178 pages

Your reaction doesn't really surprise me . You haven't really shown to take losses very well .

Point of the fact is that it's stated that Marvel represents a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse which encompasses every comic book companie . A line of comic , such as Marvel or DC represents a Megaverse . It doesn't matter if Marvel reffers to its Megaverse as a Omniverse because it's still a Megaverse .

Originally posted by Mr Master
No, no.

Even though I just posted a slew of On Panel Omniversal depcitions,
and Bio statements,
heck the actual Omniverse itself is illustrated in the Earth X series,

even though the LT was artistically depicted ON PANEL holding TWO MegaverseS,
which was CONFIRMED in the LT's Official 2006 Bio,

Marvel only has a single Megaverse. 😆

Its actually a situation that makes everybody happy, the definition by Mark.

There is only one "true" Omniverse but all Comics are free to define there "megaverse" the way they see fit. Because there Comic there Rules.

As mentioned before thats why Starwars is a Galaxy and Marvel is a Omniverse. even though they with definition is a megaverse.

And forget it master to debate against this is impossible because there is the comic version and the real world version.

But as mentioned before then if they accept that a omniverse exist then they accept that a fiction isn't fiction any longer, and that its just as real as we are.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Your reaction doesn't really surprise me . You haven't really shown to take losses very well .

Point of the fact is that it's stated that Marvel represents a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse which encompasses every comic book companie . A line of comic , such as Marvel or DC all represent a Megaverse . It doesn't matter if Marvel reffers to its Megaverse as a Omniverse because it's still a Megaverse .

So suddenly Mark changes his mind 👆 yes sure he does.

Not only comic book every single reality in existance. Oures included.

Its a megaverse from the outside, but inside its a Omniverse. Read his damm book and get back.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Its actually a situation that makes everybody happy, the definition by Mark.

There is only one "true" Omniverse but all Comics are free to define there "megaverse" the way they see fit. Because there Comic there Rules.

As mentioned before thats why Starwars is a Galaxy and Marvel is a Omniverse. even though they with definition is a megaverse.

And forget it master to debate against this is impossible because there is the comic version and the real world version.

But as mentioned before then if they accept that a omniverse exist then they accept that a fiction isn't fiction any longer, and that its just as real as we are.

I agree.

Well for the record!

Originally posted by Mr Master

Marvel's On Panel and Bio clarifications:

Marvel has it's own Omniverse!

(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)

"The Omniverse,
Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality
"

The Omniverse according to MARVEL!

The company that creates and publishes Marvel comics.

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Roma's Starlight Citidel oversees the entire Marvel Omniverse:

"from this venue,

the Guardian of Reality
can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE
"

But how can this be if Marvel only has one Megaverse?

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Roma can also destroy any Universe within the Omniverse with the Celestial Nullifier:

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it,
that Entire Portion of the OMNIVERSE
CEASES TO EXIST"

But how can this be if Marvel only has one Megaverse?
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In fact, the Celestial Nullifier has been able to do for quite a while:

"A WHOLE UNIVERSE! ...
He just WIPED OUT a WHOLE UNIVERSE at the flick of a switch"

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE
there is NOT ONE Universe,
that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

But how can this be if Marvel only has one Megaverse?
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The actual Omniverse being ARTISTICALLY depicted On Panel:

Within the Siege Perilous:

"The OMNIVERSE" (ON PANEL) in a MARVEL COMIC!!!!

Originally posted by Utrigita
So suddenly Mark changes his mind 👆 yes sure he does.

Not only comic book every single reality in existance. Oures included.

Its a megaverse from the outside, but inside its a Omniverse. Read his damm book and get back.

This isn't said by Mark :

Try again .

What's so hard to comprehend ? It's rather simple actually . As I said before .

Marvel represents a Megaverse , the same as DC , both of them being part of the larger Omniverse which includes all the Universes in all the comic book companies .

It doesn't matter if Marvel reffers to it as Omniverse . It still represents a Megaverse .

Simple .

Originally posted by Mr Master
Or, you prefer the Watcher's (Uatu) validation:

First time the Omniverse was acknowledged by Marvel ON PANEL (1992)

The Watcher and Her, are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse
into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.

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"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"

"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"

"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an OMNIVERSE,

a Continuum of Multiverses"

Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.

But let's proceed.

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"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead,

you must be in the OMNIVERSE"

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Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse

"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse" (signifying MORE than one)

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In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL

"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater OMNIVERSE"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok, Here we have the Living Tribunal holding not one

but the embodiment of TWO Marvel MEGAVERSES in one hand!

YET THERE's ONLY ONE MArvel Megaverse right?

rofl2
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This is how the Omniverse is described according to the OHOTMU v5 (2006)

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"the REALMS with a Multiverse"

"Within the OMNIVERSE,
collections of associated REALMS from different Multiverses
are referred to as Megaverses"

So a Megaverse is a collection of Multi-verses in Marvel.

...................................................................................

Ok,

Now we have the Living Tribunal On Panel,
holding the embodiments of TWO Megaverses in his hand
like the toys of a child.

"he sits at the CENTER of ALL things,
feeling the flow of countless Realities,
their FATE irrevocably determined through the judgment
rendered by HIS Three Faces"

"Two SIBLINGS,
whom the Tribunal has a place for in HIS great scheme of things"

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"the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him,
for he is its Heart,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny SPUN by HIS mighty Hand"

"A Hand soon opening
to allow TWO Brothers to assume their pre-destined Roles
as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge knows why"

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And it's ALL CANON, according to the OHOTMU v5 (2006)

"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS,
each of whom became the guardian of a different MEGAVERSE,
within the larger OMNIVERSE but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"
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How can this be, there's only one Megaverse in Marvel right? hum

bored

You posted your first input,
I brought out Marvel's ON PANEL Proof to the contrary,
and Marvel's BIO Proof to the contrary.

You posted snippets of text and nothing else.

So I reposted my ON PANEL and BIO Evidence AGAIN (with emphasis)
in case you missed it the first time around.

Let's let the onlookers decide for themselves now shall we,

don't spam my thread, thanx.

As usual , you're repeating yourself . Like I said , you don't take loses very well .

It's stated that each line of comic represents a Megaverse . Marvel is a Megaverse , aswell as DC . Both of them are contained within the larger Omniverse . Marvel can reffer to its Megaverse any way it wants , but it's still a Megaverse .

Is that hard to understand ?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This isn't said by Mark :

Try again .

What's so hard to comprehend ? It's rather simple actually . As I said before .

Marvel represents a Megaverse , the same as DC , both of them being part of the larger Omniverse which includes all the Universes in all the comic book companies .

It doesn't matter if Marvel reffers to it as Omniverse . It still represents a Megaverse .

Simple .

I ask again H-A-V-E Y-O-U R-E-A-D H-I-S B-O-O-K ????

It isn't hard to comprehende, I'm already comprehending it. But fact is that you isn't accepting anything.

Okay then what about all the other realities that are only encompassing a Universe ore a Galaxy they are per you definition a Megaverse to. Correct by you own accord. This means that if you can have a megaverse that you scall down to a Galaxy then you can also expand it.

Thats what I'm saying jackass but they are free to make a Omniverse within the represented Megaverse what is so hard to comprehende about that??? Because there Comic there Rules.

Let's let the onlookers decide for themselves now shall we,

don't spam my thread, thanx.

What's to decide really ? The fact that Marvel isn't more than a Megaverse ? That's stated . It doesn't matter that Marvel calls it an Omniverse on panel , it's still a Megaverse within the Omniverse that contains all .

Or are you suggesting that the Marvel "Omniverse" contains all the other comic book companies Universes , such as DC or Image ? 😆 I certainly hope not .

And spamming ? With what ? Don't try to make me look bad because that's just pathetic.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
As usual , you're repeating yourself . Like I said , you don't take loses very well .

It's stated that each line of comic represents a Megaverse . Marvel is a Megaverse , aswell as DC . Both of them are contained within the larger Omniverse . Marvel can reffer to its Megaverse any way it wants , but it's still a Megaverse .

Is that hard to understand ?

Yes they can that why they can say they have a Omniverse within a Megaverse I think its you that have a comprehending problem.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What's to decide really ? The fact that Marvel isn't more than a Megaverse ? That's stated . It doesn't matter that Marvel calls it an Omniverse on panel , it's still a Megaverse within the Omniverse that contains all .

Or are you suggesting that the Marvel "Omniverse" contains all the other comic book companies Universes , such as DC or Image ? 😆 I certainly hope not .

And spamming ? With what ? Don't try to make me look bad because that's just pathetic.

A omniverse that has been defined in a book... Which mentions clearly the rules etc that is within that Omniverse, but hey you haven't read it so I isn't expecting you to comprehende anything.

Are you suggesting that we are actually living in a Universe that exist in a omniverse with incompasses Marvel, Image, DC, Star Wars, Star Trek, Black Moon Chronicles etc...

Utrigita apparently can't really understand / doesn't want to understand or simply doesn't read my posts .

I'll explain it again and tell me if you agree . This time actually read and understand my post .

Marvel is a Megaverse . It is contained within the larger Omniverse that contains all the other lines of comics such as DC . Just because Marvel calls it's Megaverse an Omniverse doesn't mean that it contains all the other comic lines , it's still a Megaverse .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
As usual , you're repeating yourself .

Cause you're willingly ignoring Marvel On Panel artistic illustrations
and On Panel Marvel statements.

You're also ignoring Marvel's Official Bio statements.

You're also acting as though your ONE source can override BOTH of mine.

That's never gonna work.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Like I said , you don't take loses very well .

😆

You remind me of someone. hm

A person who cheers himself and pats himself in back without merit.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It's stated that each line of comic represents a Megaverse . Marvel is a Megaverse , aswell as DC . Both of them are contained within the larger Omniverse . Marvel can reffer to its Megaverse any way it wants , but it's still a Megaverse .

I also posted statements, from Marvel's OFFICIAL Bios,
what makes yours more concrete?

I'll tell you what makes mine more valid,

it's accompanied by ON PANEL evidence.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Is that hard to understand ?

What's so hard to understand
that I have have MUCH MORE evidence to back up my claim.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Utrigita apparently can't really understand / doesn't want to understand or simply doesn't read my posts .

I'll explain it again and tell me if you agree . This time actually [b]read and understand my post .

Marvel is a Megaverse . It is contained within the larger Omniverse that contains all the other lines of comics such as DC . Just because Marvel calls it's Megaverse an Omniverse doesn't mean that it contains all the other comic lines , it's still a Megaverse . [/B]

I understand you post fully I believe it is you how doesn't understand my post.

I have agreed with you the entire time.

I have said multiply time that Marvel is free to define THERE MEGAVERSE IN ANY WAY THEY LIKE. That means they can make it as large as a omniverse ore as small as a teacop. That means to put it short that I agree.

But if you accept this then you also accept that these places are reality.

And please answear my questions, have you read his book, what about the other companies and fictive realities that define there universes differently.

Your post hasn't contributed with anything . You still haven't answered my question nor have you countered anything I said .

What are your claims exactly ? That the Marvel Omniverse contains everythig , including DC and Image ?
Because apparently that's what you're trying to do in which case I really feel sorry for you .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Your post hasn't contributed with anything . You still haven't answered my question nor have you countered anything I said .

What are your claims exactly ? That the Marvel Omniverse contains everythig , including DC and Image ?
Because apparently that's what you're trying to do in which case I really feel sorry for you .

Me ore master???

And what is you claim that these places actually exist??? Both ideas sound redicolus

Ok, enough of this waste of space.

No more discussions concerning this circular conversation.

We're cloggin my thread with back and forth yip yap.

Everyone's made their point.

The issue is dead, the onlookers will decide for themselves.

Thank you everyone for your contribution,
minus the condescension
(class dismissed) (you don't take losses very well) blah blah blah.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I understand you post fully I believe it is you how doesn't understand my post.

I have agreed with you the entire time.

I have said multiply time that Marvel is free to define THERE MEGAVERSE IN ANY WAY THEY LIKE. That be a omniverse ore a teacop. That means to put it short that I agree.

But if you accept this then you also accept that these places are reality.

And please answear my questions, have you read his book, what about the other companies and fictive realities that define there universes differently.

So you agree with me but at the same time we're arguing ?

😕

What I'm reffering to is stricly the comic book lines . According to the handbook , they are all in the same Omniverse and Marvel represents a Megaverse , aswell as DC . Not more , not less . Neither one of the companies represents the entire Omniverse .

I'm not necesarilly talking about what Mark said . The last scan I posted isn't by Mark . It clearly says that Marvel is a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse which encompasses all the lines of comic books .

Marvel can call their Megaverse whatever they want , including Omniverse , but this doesn't change the fact that it's still a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse .

We agree on this right ?

So then , what's the problem ? 🙂