Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok, enough of this waste of space.No more discussions concerning this circular conversation.
We're cloggin my thread with back and forth yip yap.
Everyone's made their point.
The issue is dead, the onlookers will decide for themselves.
Thank you everyone for your contribution,
minus the condescension
(class dismissed) (you don't take losses very well) blah blah blah.
Funny way of avoiding my question . 🙂
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Your post hasn't contributed with anything .
As you wish.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You still haven't answered my question nor have you countered anything I said .
There's nothing to counter.
You're basing you opinion on a single source.
I'm basing mine on multiple sources,
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What are your claims exactly ? That the Marvel Omniverse contains everythig , including DC and Image ?
Because apparently that's what you're trying to do in which case I really feel sorry for you .
No one ever said that.
I've always stated that Marvel has IT'S OWN OMNIVERSE!!!!
And it has Nothing to do with any other company.
I provided PROOF, you may say or think it isn't valid
(although it comes straight from ON PANEL Marvel comic books and Marvel bios)
and that's fine, whatever, continue to preach you idea where ever you wish.
So again,
I don't care to discuss this any further.
Thank you for your input, moving on.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Is it just me or all 3 of us agreeing yet we argue ?I never said Marvel doesn't have it's own "Omniverse" but Marvel's "Omniverse" represents a "Megaverse" from the larger "Omniverse" which encompasses all comic book companies .
😂 we are all agreeing on the same f*cking thing yet we have been talking past each other the entire time.
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I thought you where talking about marks book, Master thought what you didn't believe marvel had a omniverse and You thought that none of us understand. 😆 this is redicolus we have been wasting time (and Space) moving on 😆
Originally posted by Utrigita
we are all agreeing on the same f*cking thing yet we have been talking past each other the entire time.
Actualy Ut, I never agreed that Marvel was a Megaverse, not now not ever.
The Marvel Universe is an Omniverse.
This Omniverse is the sum of all the possible UniverseS IN Marvel:
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First the Watcher describes the Omniverse to X-23:
"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality, it was Not singular.
He learn of the Omniverse and its unending Alternatives"
X-23 asks:
"Alternative Realities?"
Watcher replies:
"It is believed that there are many possible directions a life can take.
This Omniverse is the Collection of all those possibilities.
The Siege perilous is the Doorway to the Omniverse"
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Here is the Siege Perilous, "the Doorway to the (Marvel) Omniverse"
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When they enter, they are withIN the actual Marvel Omniverse:
"The Omniverse"
Thats the actual Omniverse being depicted/illustrated On Panel::
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Marvel Official 2007 Bio confrims this:
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"OMNIVERSE - Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass ALL REALITY"
So ... srugdoped
It's quite hilarious watching anyone trying to dispute this.
Originally posted by Utrigita
this is redicolus we have been wasting time (and Space) moving on
You got that right.
How the heck is the LT holding TWO MegaverseS, withIn one Megaverse? lmfao
Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Actualy Ut, I never agreed that Marvel was a Megaverse, not now not ever.
And Erik never attempted to disturb the that Marvel had there own Omniverse, he applied a outside comic definition which was doesn't allow a omniverse to exist as a singular entity that's what rose this discussion. Which is unnecessary when we all in the end agreed that marvel had there own Omniverse we just talked past each other (that's the way I see it)
But wtf moving one next subject...
Originally posted by Utrigita
Circles that none of us really realized because we where having a discussion that interested all of us.
I wasn't interested in it.
That's a discussion that's been done many times, and every kmc vet agrees,
Marvel has it's own Omniverse, it has nothing to do with any other company,
and it's not a Megaverse that Marvel labels as Omniverse,
it an Omniverse (Multiple MegaverseS)
Originally posted by Utrigita
I think this discussion is more funny to read then IM
Funny?
I'll agree 100% with that.
But at the expense of valuable posting space. Which isn't cool.
Originally posted by Mr MasterMarvel's using the term improperly if it excludes even a single reality.
I wasn't interested in it.That's a discussion that's been done many times, and every kmc vet agrees,
Marvel has it's own Omniverse, it has nothing to do with any other company,
and it's not a Megaverse that Marvel labels as Omniverse,
it an Omniverse (Multiple MegaverseS)
Funny?
I'll agree 100% with that.
But at the expense of valuable posting space. Which isn't cool.
There is only one omniverse. if it does not encompass all reality, including other realities and our own, then it does not encompass all reality.
omni=all
Originally posted by Creshosk
Marvel's using the term improperly if it excludes even a single reality.
I disagree Cresh, the term isn't in any dictionary to be used improperly.
The term simply mean "All Universes"
(any company can use it as such to define their Reality)
So, what reality are they excluding?
They include every Reality withIN their company, that's all that's needed.
Originally posted by Creshosk
There is only one omniverse.
In Marvel?
I agree.
Whatever takes place outside of Marvel doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Creshosk
if it does not encompass all reality, including other realities and our own, then it does not encompass all reality.
Our own?
Why would our Reality (as in the real world)
need to be part of a fictional fairytale made up of drawings on paper,
which is what Comic books are?
As for other Realities (I'm assuming you mean other companies)
same logic applies, why would DC have to be a part of Marvel,
when they're two completely separate companies?
(that goes for every other comic book company)
Originally posted by Creshosk
omni=all
I agree.
All possible UniverseS in Marvel:
"It is believed that there are many possible directions a life can take.
This Omniverse is the Collection of all those possibilities"
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Confirmed in the Official 2007 Bio:
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"Omniverse - Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass ALL Reality"
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Originally posted by Utrigita
And omnipotente means all power and yet multiply people has that one them in marvel.
Precisely.
Although the term Omni is more broad,
it's not designated to any specific meaning except to say, "All"
add "Universe" to that and you get "All Universes"
All the Universes in Marvel = an Omniverse.
Marvel uses this term to differentiate MegaverseS,
because Marvel has Multiple MegaverseS.
A Megaverse in Marvel is a collection of MultiverseS.
Unlike other companies that have a single Universe, or Multiverse.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Let it be Creshosk ore revive a thread that involves the subject I should have done that instead of starting it here.
Yea, start that thread up cause I can see now this isn't going to end,
and my thread has had its share of this exact discussion.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOther than :
I disagree Cresh, the term isn't in any dictionary to be used improperly.
Originally posted by Mr MasterExactly, and if its not all, then its not omni.
The term simply mean "All Universes"
Originally posted by Mr MasterA company can use any word improperly if they want. Doesn't make them accurate, just makes them wrong.
(any company can use it as such to define their Reality)
Originally posted by Mr MasterThey'd have to include other universes other than just in their company, other wise it isn't all.
So, what reality are they excluding?They include every Reality withIN their company, that's all that's needed.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIn existence. period. This reality, the DC verse, Image, Archie, The Sailor Moon universe, Dragon ball Z, doki doki panic, Mario's universes, Sonic the hedgehog's universes etc etc etc.
In Marvel?
If those aren't included, it isn't all.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIOf you exclude the things that take place outside of marvel then it isn't all.
I agree.Whatever takes place outside of Marvel doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Mr MasterBecause ours is a universe. Is it not being included in the "all universes"?
Our own?Why would our Reality (as in the real world)
need to be part of a fictional fairytale made up of drawings on paper,
which is what Comic books are?
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt goes for every other possible reality, not just comic books, but fanfiction universes, video games, movies. You name it.
As for other Realities (I'm assuming you mean other companies)
same logic applies, why would DC have to be a part of Marvel,
when they're two completely separate companies?
(that goes for every other comic book company)
If they aren't included, it isn't all.
Originally posted by Mr MasterThis is quite like the discussion about onmnipotence where people wanted to limit omnipotence (thus making it not omnipotence) and still call it omnipotence. I'm sorry, but you can't limit all and still call it all. if it isn't all, then it isn't all.
I agree.All possible UniverseS in Marvel:
Originally posted by Mr MasterYou can keep showing me the scans all you want. But I can't help but think of people who use scans of PIS and insist that it happened despite it being pis. Now I'm not saying that it is pis. I'm just saying that simply because it was depicted doesn't make it right."It is believed that there are many possible directions a life can take.
This Omniverse is the Collection of all those possibilities"[/b[]/quote] Including ours, DCs everything in anime and manga, and comic books and movies and EVERY single fictional world out there. be it official company canon, official company non-canon. and of course fanworks.[QUOTE=9621620]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]..................................................................................Confirmed in the Official 2007 Bio:
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
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"[B]Omniverse - Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass ALL Reality.................................................................................. [/B]
Did you know that wolverine recently fell into some molten steal and then climbed out without flech on and walked away? Without muscles, without tendons, without carteledge. Just as a skeleton.
Now should I just post that over and over again saying that noone can kill Wolverine?
Originally posted by Mr MasterBy adding qualifiers you change the wourd that you'd need to use.
Precisely.Although the term Omni is more broad,
it's not designated to any specific meaning except to say, "All"
add "Universe" to that and you get "All Universes"All the Universes in Marvel = an Omniverse.
Originally posted by Mr MasterAnd if it doesn't include All, it ain't all.
Marvel uses this term to differentiate MegaverseS,
because Marvel has Multiple MegaverseS.A Megaverse in Marvel is a collection of MultiverseS.
Unlike other companies that have a single Universe, or Multiverse.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIts a subtopic of the main topic is it not?
Yea, start that thread up cause I can see now this isn't going to end,
and my thread has had its share of this exact discussion.
I'll post it here also
Marvel has an Omniverse , the Marvel Omniverse . But Marvel's Omniverse is included into a larger Omniverse, including all the other comic book lines , and in refference to that Omniverse , the Marvel Omniverse is a Megaverse . As is DC's line of comics .
None of the sources is wrong . One of them is reffering strictly to the Marvel Universe thus why it is using the term Omniverse while the other is reffering in perspective , including all the other comic book titles and in the Omniverse containing them all , Marvel's Omniverse is a Megaverse .
Its all been settled.
Erik and I had a quick discussion over PMs.
Apparently he wasn't wrong, but his info was out of date (honest mistake)
He was using the 2005 Alternate Universes Bio.
I'm using LT's 2006 Bio,
Marvel Universe Update 2007 - #2,
Marvel Universe Handbook - Mighty Avengers Most Wanted Files #1, (2207)
Marvel Universe Handbook - Spiderman Back in Black (2007)
and a slew of On Panel confirmation.
So it appears in 2005,
Marvel did in fact consider the Marvel Reality as being part of Gruenwald's "Omniverse"
That, has evidently changed as of 2006, and ceritfied in several 2007 Bios.
As of 2006 atleast,
Marvel is an official Omniverse with multiple MegaverseS.
I hope we can all go in peace now. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Its all been settled.Erik and I had a quick discussion over PMs.
Apparently he wasn't wrong, but his info was out of date (honest mistake)
He was using the 2005 Alternate Universes Bio.
I'm using LT's 2006 Bio,
Marvel Universe Update 2007 - #2,
Marvel Universe Handbook - Mighty Avengers Most Wanted Files #1, (2207)
Marvel Universe Handbook - Spiderman Back in Black (2007)and a slew of On Panel confirmation.
So it appears in 2005,
Marvel did in fact consider the Marvel Reality as being part of Gruenwald's "Omniverse"That, has evidently changed as of 2006, and ceritfied in several 2007 Bios.
As of 2006 atleast,
Marvel is an official Omniverse with multiple MegaverseS.
I hope we can all go in peace now. 🙂
Marvel has an Omniverse , the Marvel Omniverse . But Marvel's Omniverse is included into a larger Omniverse, including all the other comic book lines , and in refference to that Omniverse , the Marvel Omniverse is a Megaverse . As is DC's line of comics .None of the sources is wrong . One of them is reffering strictly to the Marvel Universe thus why it is using the term Omniverse while the other is reffering in perspective , including all the other comic book titles and in the Omniverse containing them all , Marvel's Omniverse is a Megaverse .
