Originally posted by Mr Master
I did say "logic would suggest"I never said it was a fact.
But IMO,
it is a fact.
BTW, you saying something is both a fact and an opinion, is an oxymoron.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Aren't crossovers generally considered to be non - canon anyway?
Basically, unless the companies are connected by publishing rights,
then in certain circumstances there are exceptions.
And if not, they make themselves non-canon by how ridicuous
and unconnected the stories are with the established historical timeline
of one of the Universes involved.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You told Urtrigita that "all Abstracts totalities are multiversal". Just like that, no hint that it was speculation or anything.
And I still feel that way based on simple logic,
and based on the Fact that Eternity has a Totality that's associated with Aspects
as one entity.
Not everything needs to be written in stone.
But when I explained it to you, I elaborated,
so you should focus on the post directed at you,
which was posted after I said that.
Originally posted by King Kandy
BTW, you saying something is both a fact and an opinion, is an oxymoron.
I'll re-phrase then.
So Imo it makes sense that it should be fact,
based on facts that identify with the reasoning of said facts.
Cool, now let's move on.
After a meeting with Joe Quesada and Warren Simons -- Roberto Sacasa agrees to take over as the Fantastic Four's new writer:
[A couple more versions of TOAA for ya]...
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After a very uneventful incident involving the F4/IM, Sacasa tells Warren that Reed is going to make a device that would allow IM to "scour the MultiverseS, in search of his kids":
My God Reed's mind is amazing -- No wonder the Alien Entity needed him. 😂
I'll address this once, and then you'll be added to my ignore list,
your agenda is quite apparent from you opening statement:
"You seem to use certain things to suit your case"Instead of just being a human being and asking a question,
you have to begin with this gibberish.You been trolling after me for a while,
and while it's been comical for the most part,
your attempts at besmirching my name have reached that point
(where it's time to ignore)
My "agenda" ? You've been spilling blabbering all over the board with different levels of Omnipotence and such, and ignoring everything everybody says, taking your opinion on the matter as the correct one, even when it's illogical.
You also apparently don't really have a specific opinion on certain things, but just use them in accordance to the situation and debate you're in. Which, as I pointed out, brings contradictions .
I've been considering putting you on ignore for a time now , mostly due to your ignorance and incapacity to view somebody else's opinion.
Me , trolling ? With what exactly ? Showing you that you are wrong ? And you ignoring what I say and going on with the same things, over and over again ? Who's the troll really ?
Yea it seems that way when you cleverly crop my post,
to make it seem as though that's All I said.Same ploy you pulled before, what a spiteful child. laughing
Now let's look at that ENTIRE Post shall we:
Now you can return with an excuse or a rant or whatever you socks do.
But it will be ignored,
and the serious debaters that have class and enter this thread,
will be noted to do the same.
What exactly does that prove ? Nothing .
God can't be threatened in the real sense of the word by one of his creations because to him they're just drawings on a piece of paper. He makes them do whatever he wants them to do. This is according to you . And you're the same one who said that Wanda threatened him. Am I the only one seeing the contradiction ? No. And I hope I'm not the only one seeing how ridiculous your so called "counter-argument" is.
Did you say that say that One Above All couldn't fix the Universe without destroying it, the same way that Thanos couldn't ? Yes .Then, did you later say that he actually can do everything and anything because everything is just a drawing on a piece of paper for him ? Yes. Again, a contradiction .
Your opinion seems to fluctuate from The One Above All being the writers themselves, to him being a supreme character similar to the real writers but not being them, with every character being just a drawing for him, and to him being a character similar to Living Tribunal only supreme and all-powerfull . Or perhaps you have a different view which you do not share.
I ask you again. What is your view on the One Above All ?
And stop with the insults.
The Brothers were ONE Universe each, and in battle they shattered into a Multiverse each:
"Fragments of their Essence blew in all directions, and as the Universe spread so did the Brothers"
"Remember the Brothers LOST Parts of themselves in the Big Bang "SHARDS"
"These "SHARDS" take different Forms"
"Other "SHARDS" become Parts of living Beings, Souls if you will"
"ever so often , One or Two become aware, like me and you"
"Cosmos-shaking events tore the fabric of the Universe and redefined reality"
"in their Battle, some of each ended up in each OTHER'S Universe"
"Each of their respective Universes is superior to the Other's"
"They will Pit Their Super-Powered Beings against each other to end all wars"
"and End ONE Universe" (that was Blunt!)
"To say nothing of there still being a Universe"
"What I need is triumph, so my Universe can survive"
"Your Universe is in serious trouble"
"There's Our Universe and there's this Other ONE, like Ours but different"
"The Universes started MERGING ... Everything crossing from ONE to the Other"
"There are these TWO gods, Entities, ONE in each Universe ... BROTHERS"
"They're the embodiment of everything in their Universe"
"Now They've decided to find out Whose Universe is better ... we have to fight somebody from the Other Universe"
"The Losing Universe ... when it's all over only ONE Universe will Survive"
"In the Past, you and I have preserved Our TWO Universes by acting Together"
"Now we attempt to Save at least ONE"
"TWO Whole Universes EMBODIED in these BROTHERS"
"And I'm supposed to be some kind of "SHARD" from the TWO of Them"
"I'm a "SHARD" of the Brothers, just like you"
"I've been the Keeper of the Gateway between TWO Universes"
"It falls to You to preserve the Balance between the TWO Universes"
The Battle is over and only ONE Universe is being spared ... but not the winning Universe"
"ONE Universe is being eliminated, but not the losing Universe"
"The Brothers are MERGING Realities, combining Universes"
(Actually we find out in the Next Issue, that the Living Tribunal and Spectre were the ones that MERGED the TWO Universes BY FORCE!)
When LT and Spectre MERGED the TWO Universes/Brothers, the Brothers became ONE Universe called the Amalgam Universe (basically a Mixture of BOTH)
"He had thought the MERGING was the DOING of the Brothers, it was NOT"
"because of the War, ONE of the Universes faced being hurled INTO OBLIVION"
"And the Cosmic Guardians ... the Living Tribunal and Spectre, are HOLDING it ALL TOGETHER"
"Their effort Created a Amalgam Universe ... the Brother aren't Happy about it"
The Living Tribunal and Spectre were struggling to keep the Brothers MERGED.
Respect non-canon LT & Spectre ... 😂
Access placed "SHARDS" (Fragments of the Brothers) within Captain America & Batman, which were still there even in their Archetypes in the ONE Amalgam Universe the Brothers had become.
Access gives Spectre & LT the Power of the "SHARDS" within Bats & Cap to Separate the TWO Universes without destroying then at the same time.
"I'm giving the Living Tribunal access to the Power within You, and we're using it to Restore the Universes"
"As it had come Together, the Universe that was an Amalgam of TWO Others blows apart"
"I wield a Portion, a Fragment of the Core Power of the Universes"
"the Bum helped me jump SOMEPLACE, INBETWEEN, SOMEPLACE where NO ASPECT of the BROTHERS EXISTED"
(I thought they were the WHOLE of Reality?) 😕
(This is why DC & Marvel cross-overs are imo, 👇
"For a moment Batman & Captain America FEEL NOTHING, and THEN, they Continue to FEEL IT"
"they see what their minds allow them to grasp, Something that Represents the barest Fragment of the Reality or Unreality, that faces them"
This is quite funny.
The Brothers are no more than a few Hundred Feet tall here, and yet the Living Tribunal who overpowered the IG, (which made Thanos as BIG as a Universe) all of a sudden can't increase His Height? hum
Spectre who was manipulating "Bubbled Universes"
all of a sudden can't assume a Height taller than 6' 5''? dontgetit
"Those "Specks on the Sword, the Spectre and Living Tribunal trying to hold back the Brothers"
Heck, Captain America & Batman are the same Height as LT and Spectre 😆
(For "SPECKS" the Living Tribunal and Spectre didn't ALLOW the Brothers to strike each other more than ONCE) LT & Spectre were NOT there for their First Strike.
(For "SPECKS" the Living Tribunal and Spectre MERGED BOTH Brothers into ONE Universe BY FORCE)
Not bad ey? (respect non-canon LT & Spectre)
The Brothers finally get to Strike each other for the SECOND Time during this entire Saga.
The Brothers witness the Histories of both Batman and Captain America, and are impressed.
It's Over.
"the Brothers come to realization that they encompass the whole of reality"
Oh, on the the how to ignore socks, trolls and spammers.
Here's the answer requested:
Simply click on said poster's name,
it will take you their info page,
towards the bottom of the page,
you'l notice Two options:
"Add (said poster) to your buddy list" --- "Add (said poster) to your ignore list"
Simply click on the obvious.
You'l never have to deal with the jerk again.
You'l never have to even see what the jerk is saying.
Your welcome yall.
